On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Bret Busby <b...@busby.net> wrote: > On Sun, 3 May 2009, Neal Hogan wrote: > >> >> On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Bret Busby <b...@busby.net> wrote: >>> >>> On Sat, 2 May 2009, Neal Hogan wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Douglas A. Tutty <dtu...@vianet.ca> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 06:27:44AM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> FYI - While many of the fBSD folks will tout there ports/package >>>>>> system, I found it to be a pain (especially the upgrade), as did many >>>>>> others. There has recently been some chatter on their general mailing >>>>>> list to overhaul how they handle packages. Again, I found oBSD's >>>>>> package handling system to be superior. >>>>> >>>>> Last I looked (last week), OBSD doesn't have security updates (patches) >>>>> for their packages; they only provide patches for the base release. If >>>>> you want to run -current, then the packages get security patches. >>>>> Since >>>>> I'm on dialup, that would mean a lot of bandwidth time; basically, >>>>> every >>>>> time firefox or some third-party app required a security fix, I'd have >>>>> to download the source for _everything_ and recompile _everything_. >>>> >>>> I don't want to labor this point here, but just one more thing. If you >>>> are going to follow current, the recommended way to go about it is to >>>> do binary upgrades of the kernel (i.e, snapshots). You don't have to >>>> compile src every time. The same goes for packages, binary snapshots >>>> of which are updated every few months or so (probably not that often). >>>> >>>> http://www.openbsd.org/faq/current.html >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Ah. >>> >>> Maybe it's too complicated for me. >>> >>> I was only ever a user on someone else's (educational instritution's) BSD >>> system, and did not do, or learn, sysadmin on BSD. >>> >>> As a Linux user since around Red Hat 4 or 5, I have never compiled >>> anything >>> in Linux, and have relied on package management, and have had problems >>> with >>> software that involved using.tar.gz files to install, to the extent that >>> I >>> gave up on any package that involved using .tar.gz files to install. >>> >>> So, if BSD is more complicated than using package management like RPM in >>> Red >>> Hat and .deb in Debian/Ubuntu, then it is probably too complicated for >>> me. >> >> >> It's not . . . http://www.openbsd.org/ports.html >> >>> >>> -- >>> Bret Busby >>> Armadale >>> West Australia >>> .............. >> > > One more thing, regarding the above; multiple booting. > > On a (relatively) new laptop, that has 160GB of HDD space, thus leading to > the potential for multiple booting (at 20GB per OS, plus about 40GB for > data, that is many OS's), I was thinking (as it supposedly comes with both > Windows Vista, and Windows XP preinstalled) that it could be possible to > have multiple booting with Win Vista, Win XP, Debian Linux, Ubuntu Linux, > and one or more BSD's (OpenBSD and FreeBSD, possibly), and thus, six OS's to > play with (and learn). > > However, on the web page at > http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#Multibooting , under the heading "4.8 - > Multibooting OpenBSD/i386" > is > "Only one of the four primary MBR partitions can be used for booting OpenBSD > (i.e., extended partitions will not work)." > > Whilst it would be a 64 bit version that would be intended to be installed, > to be able to use the full 4GB of RAM, I am concerned at the reference to > "the four primary MBR partitions". > > Does this mean that only four OS's can be installed, for multiple booting? > > Whilst this may be digressing, a bit, into BSD stuff, I think that it is > still relevant here, as it relates to multiple booting, involving Debian, > and, to what extent it can be done, without having to resort to virtual > machines like VMWare. > > Thank you in anticipation. >
While I don't know the answer to your particular concern, perhaps you should ask it on the oBSD mailing list m...@openbsd.org. It seems like a reasonable question, given that you've done some homework. At the very least, you can check the list's archive (http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&r=1&w=2) to see if anyone else has brought up a similar issue . . . in fact I suggest you check the archive before posting to the list. Good luck! > -- > Bret Busby > Armadale > West Australia > .............. > > "So once you do know what the question actually is, > you'll know what the answer means." > - Deep Thought, > Chapter 28 of Book 1 of > "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: > A Trilogy In Four Parts", > written by Douglas Adams, > published by Pan Books, 1992 > > .................................................... -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org