> ..something on the matter:  ;-)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ jwhois winram.com
> [Querying whois.internic.net]
> [Redirected to whois.dotster.com]
> [Querying whois.dotster.com]
> [whois.dotster.com]
> 
>  The data contained in the WHOIS database, while
> believed by the company to be reliable, is provided "as is",
> with no guarantee or warranties regarding its accuracy.  This
> information is provided for the sole purpose of assisting you
> in obtaining information about domain name registration records.
> Any use of this data for any other purpose, including, but not
> limited to, allowing or making possible dissemination or
> collection of this data in part or in its entirety for any
> purpose, such as the transmission of unsolicited advertising and
> solicitations, is expressly forbidden without the prior written
> permission of this company. By submitting an inquiry, you agree
> to these terms of usage and limitations of warranty.
> Please limit your queries to 10 per minute and one connection.
> 
> Registrant:
>    Ken Hopkins
>    vancouver
>    vancouver, bc v6h1r5
>    CA
> 
>    Registrar: DOTSTER
>    Domain Name: WINRAM.COM
>       Created on: 15-JUN-97
>       Expires on: 14-JUN-04
>       Last Updated on: 10-APR-03
> 
>    Administrative, Technical Contact:
>       Hopkins, Ken  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>       vancouver
>       vancouver, bc  v6h1r5
>       CA
>       6048017007
> 
> 
>    Domain servers in listed order:
>       NS1.CLGRAB.GROUPTELECOM.NET
>       NS2.TOROON.GROUPTELECOM.NET
>       NS1.CYBEK.COM
> 
> End of Whois Information
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dig winram.com
> 
> ; <<>> DiG 9.2.1 <<>> winram.com
> ;; global options:  printcmd
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 58250
> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 2
> 
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;winram.com.                    IN      A
> 
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> winram.com.             86400   IN      A       209.17.173.149
> 
> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> winram.com.             86400   IN      NS      ns.cg.sfl.net.
> winram.com.             86400   IN      NS      ns.mt.sfl.net.
> winram.com.             86400   IN      NS     
>       ns1.clgrab.grouptelecom.net. 
> winram.com.             86400   IN      NS 
>       ns2.toroon.grouptelecom.net.
> 
> ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
> ns1.clgrab.grouptelecom.net. 172798 IN  A       139.142.2.3
> ns2.toroon.grouptelecom.net. 172798 IN  A       209.135.99.3
> 
> ;; Query time: 2383 msec
> ;; SERVER: 192.168.1.1#53(192.168.1.1)
> ;; WHEN: Wed Aug 27 07:28:49 2003
> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 186
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dig -x 209.17.173.149
> 
> ; <<>> DiG 9.2.1 <<>> -x 209.17.173.149
> ;; global options:  printcmd
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 33899
> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 0
> 
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;149.173.17.209.in-addr.arpa.   IN      PTR
> 
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> 149.173.17.209.in-addr.arpa. 86400 IN   PTR    
> h209-17-173.gtconnect.net.
> 
> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> 173.17.209.in-addr.arpa. 86400  IN      NS      ns.cg.sfl.net.
> 173.17.209.in-addr.arpa. 86400  IN      NS      ns.mt.sfl.net.
> 
> ;; Query time: 254 msec
> ;; SERVER: 192.168.1.1#53(192.168.1.1)
> ;; WHEN: Wed Aug 27 07:30:19 2003
> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 128
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
> 
> ..draw your own conclusions.  ;-)
> 

I didn't want to set out "winram" as a trouble-maker, and I apologize to
him/her if it seems that way, I only used it as a referance.


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