On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Tzafrir Cohen<tzaf...@cohens.org.il> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 09:17:18AM +0800, 明覺 wrote: >> I want to keep the programs in my system all written in c/c++, no >> python or perl or any other programming languages, is it possible to >> reach it? I removed the 2 packages, python and perl, from my system, >> and of cause, I losed my desktop, is it possible to install a desktop >> manager without perl and python? which is the proper desktop manager? >> thanks > > Let's throw some data into this discussion: > > LXDE is a rather minimalistic desktop. IceWM is an example of a > resonable (not-so-bloated) window manager. > > $ aptitude why lxde perl > i lxde Depends xarchiver > i A xarchiver Depends libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.20.3) > i A libpango1.0-0 Depends libpango1.0-common (>= 1.20.5-3+lenny1) > i A libpango1.0-common Depends defoma (>= 0.11.1) > i A defoma Depends perl (>= 5.6.0-16) > > $ aptitude why icewm perl > i icewm Depends libfontconfig1 (>= 2.4.0) > i A libfontconfig1 Depends fontconfig-config (= 2.6.0-3) > i A fontconfig-conf Depends ttf-dejavu | ttf-bitstream-vera | > ttf-freefont | gsf > ig onts-x11 > i A ttf-freefont Depends defoma > i A defoma Depends perl (>= 5.6.0-16) > > So on the client side the dependency is basically due to defoma (DEbian > FOnts MAnager). > > > On the server side: > > $ aptitude why xserver-xorg perl > i A xserver-xorg Depends xserver-xorg-core (>= 2:1.4-3) > i A xserver-xorg-core Depends libdbus-1-3 (>= 1.0.2) > i A libdbus-1-3 Recommends dbus > i A dbus Depends adduser > i adduser Suggests perl-modules > i perl-modules Depends perl (>= 5.10.0-1) > > In this case we don't have a strict dependency. Not even a > recommendation. 'adduser' preffers to have a more complete perl > installation around. > > > But, well, this is slightly the wrong question (or the right. Depending > on how you think about it). 'perl' and 'perl-modules' include most of > the bloat of the perl package that should not get into the base system. > If we slightly rephrase the question, to satisfy the purists: > > $ aptitude why lxde perl-base > i lxde Depends lxde-core (>= 0.3.2.1+svn20080509-5) > i A lxde-core Depends pcmanfm (>= 0.3.9.5) > i A pcmanfm Depends hal > i A hal Depends adduser > i adduser Depends perl-base (>= 5.6.0) > > $ aptitude why icewm perl-base > i icewm Depends libfontconfig1 (>= 2.4.0) > i A libfontconfig1 Depends fontconfig-config (= 2.6.0-3) > i A fontconfig-config Depends ucf (>= 0.29) > i A ucf Depends debconf (>= 1.5.19) > i debconf PreDepends perl-base (>= 5.6.1-4) > > Or to make things clear: > > $ aptitude why xserver-xorg perl-base > i A xserver-xorg Depends debconf (>= 0.5) | debconf-2.0 > i debconf PreDepends perl-base (>= 5.6.1-4) > > Debconf needs perl. And you won't have much of a Debian system without > debconf. I wouldn't try removing that one. > > -- > Tzafrir Cohen | tzaf...@jabber.org | VIM is > http://tzafrir.org.il | | a Mutt's > tzaf...@cohens.org.il | | best > ICQ# 16849754 | | friend > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > >
thank you for the perfect analysis! so does it mean debian determines the use of python and perl? could you help recommend some distributions that do not need perl or python? thanks -- Gnu.Linux.(Debian|gNewSense).Gnome.(Mozilla|Gmail|Evolution|Scim|Flashplayer|Codeblocks) Microsoft.Windows.(Vista|XP).(QQ|Game|Notepad++) Gcc.Gtkmm.Opengl 初禪言語寂滅，二禪覺觀寂滅，三禪喜心寂滅，四禪出入息寂滅....于貪欲心、嗔恚心、愚痴心不樂、解脫，是為無上禪。 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
