On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 22:09 -0400, William Hopkins wrote:
> On 06/07/11 at 03:41am, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 21:18 -0400, William Hopkins wrote:
> > > On 06/07/11 at 02:46am, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 19:38 -0400, William Hopkins wrote:
> > > > > On 06/07/11 at 01:05am, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > > > > > Hi :)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > after removing all ALSA packages, excepted of libasound2, ALSA is
> > > > > > broken. I kept libasound2, because it's a dependency for audio 
> > > > > > apps. If
> > > > > > needed I could replace it by a dummy package.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > What packages did you remove? They were probably necessary for ALSA 
> > > > > to function. Libasound2 for example is required for any program which 
> > > > > tries to use ALSA. It *is* the alsa library. 
> > > > 
> > > > You have sniped text ;).
> > > 
> > > Ayuh.
> > > 
> > > > I removed all ALSA 1.0.23 packages, excepted of libasound. Just
> > > > re-installing the packages won't enable the usage of the kernel's ALSA
> > > > or am I mistaken?
> > > 
> > > You are mistaken. At least try it and see. Did sound work *before* you 
> > > started ripping the guts out of your ALSA install?
> > > You should at least have libasound2, alsa-base and alsa-utils (useful for 
> > > not having to unmute your speakers after every reboot)
> > >  
> > > > My problem isn't that ALSA from the packages is broken, but that I don't
> > > > know how to enable the usage of the kernel's ALSA.
> > > 
> > > Try aplay -l and let us see what you have. I don't know what you mean by 
> > > 'enable', given that ALSA is a library with a set of kernel modules. You 
> > > load the module, and programs linked against the library should be able 
> > > to output or configure sound.
> > >  
> > > > I can't use 1.0.23, see
> > > > http://wiki.linuxproaudio.org/index.php/Driver:hdspm
> > > 
> > > I see that the driver for hdspm is included in the 2.6.39 kernel tree.
> > >  
> > > > I build packages for 1.0.24, but those failed, hence I removed them too.
> > > 
> > > How did they fail? Why did you try to use it? Why do you think 1.0.23 
> > > won't work for you?
> > 
> > The HDSPe AIO card is ONLY supported by 1.0.24, it can't work without
> > 1.0.24!
> 
> I thought since you had the kernel which has your driver (2.6.39) you could 
> work with 1.0.23. The wiki you list does not specify that the driver will 
> only work with version 1.0.24 of the library and tools. That said, here are 
> two options:
> 
> Try to make it work with 1.0.23. Reinstall the packages you removed, reload 
> your kernel and ls /dev/snd/*, check dmesg, possibly modprobe your driver if 
> needed (it's probably snd-hdspm). Then try aplay -l and see if you get 
> anything.

I'll try this later, thank you.

> AND/OR
> 
> Install alsa 1.0.24 from source. Whether you choose to make a debian package 
> out of it is your prerogative, but if not you may then need various 
> dummy-packages to satisfy dependencies, and upgrading will be somewhat more 
> complicated.
> 

Only one dummy packages is needed, just for libasound2, there were no
other dependencies. OTOH, I didn't build a dummy package, but installed
my packages with dpkg -i force-overwrite. I can try to do it with a
dummy package.

-- Ralf


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