On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 20:54 +0100, AG wrote:
> On 09/06/11 20:10, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 19:26 +0100, AG wrote:
> >    
> >> On 09/06/11 19:19, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> >>      
> >>> On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 18:38 +0100, AG wrote:
> >>>        
> >>>> Hi all
> >>>>
> >>>> Having just rebooted after an uptime of 7 days, I have logged into my
> >>>> Gnome DE to find that all of my settings for the desktop have been
> >>>> borked and the desktop is close to unfunctional.
> >>>>
> >>>> These are some of the issues:
> >>>> 1. Windows manager is "unknown" and no configuration tool is registered
> >>>> 2. windows are launched at the top of the screen&   I cannot drag these
> >>>> elsewhere
> >>>> 3. clicking a mouse on a window does not bring it to the fore
> >>>> 4. there are no longer multiple workspaces
> >>>> 5. windows do not have the 'x' in the corner to close, nor any option to
> >>>> minimise/ enlarge
> >>>> 6. a screensaver launches after ~30 seconds of inactivity (I don't use a
> >>>> screensaver)
> >>>> 7. no key mapping exists
> >>>>
> >>>> Both metacity and nautilus are the most current versions.  No other
> >>>> user-based changes made to configuration except for whatever gets
> >>>> configured in safe updates using update-manager.
> >>>>
> >>>> Can anyone please help - I really do need a usable desktop environment
> >>>> to work in.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks.
> >>>>
> >>>> AG
> >>>>          
> >>> I can't help but confirm that strange things happen, at least for me
> >>> too.
> >>> A reboot always reset everything to normal.
> >>>
> >>> If similar happens here, I sometimes get D-Bus errors, but again, after
> >>> rebooting everything was fixed.
> >>>
> >>> Yesterday the GNOME terminal emulation all of a sudden changed from
> >>> normal letters to some cryptic letters, I closed and opened it ant
> >>> everything was ok. I lost the root command history and it kept lost.
> >>>
> >>> My machine is a real-time machine with a self build kernel 2.6.39.1 and
> >>> I successfully switched ALSA and jackd by self build versions, but that
> >>> shouldn't cause any issues.
> >>>
> >>> I suspect that D-Bus is broken.
> >>>
> >>> Just a shot in the dark ;)
> >>>
> >>> Ralf
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>        
> >> Hey Ralf
> >>
> >> Thanks for the reply ... unfortunately the reboot fix just ain't working
> >> for me :-(
> >>
> >> I've rebooted several times now in the course of trying to fix this and
> >> it is still the same fecked-up cr4p that it was when I appealed for help.
> >>
> >> This is a complete nonsense - why are config files being over-written by
> >> a safe-update ?  Sorry - don't mean to rant, but this is a complete
> >> waste of time when I have work to do!
> >>
> >> Thanks anyway.
> >>
> >> AG
> >>      
> > You don't have a multi boot with another Linux for your work? That's
> > bad! If you have serious work to do, don't waste your time with fixing
> > your install. If for some reasons you should need this install, keep it
> > and fix it at another time. I would install a second Linux and do
> > important work first.
> >
> > I hope somebody can help you to solve this issue.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > Ralf
> >
> >
> >
> >    
> 
> Ralf
> 
> I reckon that you've got a point there.  I just didn't want to get 
> tangled up in UIDs for ~/ partitions and files, etc. so have avoided it 
> out of cowardice to date.
> 
> Given the spate of issues that I seem to have had of late with Debian, 
> that may be a cowardice I will need to overcome.  I don't want to 
> encounter this when writing up my thesis, for example, and maybe 
> installing a nice, safe stable version as a safety net would be good.  I 
> assume that is possible?
> 
> AG

You seem to be a native speaker? My English is terrible broken.

IIUC you're asking if it's safe and easy to install a second Linux?

You give the impression, that I guess, it's easy to do for you. The
installer will show you existing installs and you can add a new install
and GRUB automatically will enable you to boot one or the other install.

When you are writing a thesis, you should do backups on a second hard
disc very often. Usually A stable Linux will keep stable for ever and
ever, but Finagle's Law of Dynamic Negatives always play against us:

Anything that can go wrong, will—at the worst possible moment

Nihilistic greets,

Ralf



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