On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:09 PM, Walter Hurry <walterhu...@lavabit.com>wrote:
I may get flamed for this (we are on a Debian list after all), but both > are IMHO quite straightforward and simple to use for virtually all > mainstream tasks, provided one reads and follows the instructions on the > side of the tin. > > Leaving aside technical considerations however, personally I would not > consider SUSE because of the Novell (hence Micro$oft indirectly) > connection. But that is just my preference. > Thanks. Then I should decide out of the two. I guess Debian is good for beginners too.. (who have no knowledge in Linux and just starting...!) On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:13 PM, Camaleón <noela...@gmail.com> wrote: Well, being this a Debian mailing list, my bet is that most people here > will blindly point you to Debian ;-P > I agree. But people have here said truly and nothing wrong, even though the distro could be different, like openSUSE in this case! > If you don't have any specific needing nor requirements, my advice is > that you test both from their respective LiveCD versions and then decide > with what to go. > Nice. I would burn and try to use both. I'd say openSUSE has one of the best KDE implementations you will find > nowadays but if you don't even know what KDE is then you can omit the > last paragraph ;-) > Okay, I try both. I know at least what KDE is, it is on of the desktops of the Linux which developers take from http://kde.org (hmm, I think I am right...!) On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 11:29 PM, Burhan Hanoglu <burhano...@gmail.com>wrote: Not really; Debian is (at least) one of the best GNU/Linux > distributions to use if you want to experience the excitement of > discovering the real Linux/Unix stuff behind the GUI. Otherwise; > Debian again is one of the best distros considering stability and > freedom. > Oh I see, then I would definitely give it a chance. I know many other people rely on Debian, like that of Ubuntu and they say their OS is build on it (I don't know how...!) On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 4:15 AM, Lisi <lisi.re...@gmail.com> wrote: > I am on the Debian list because I use - and love - Debian, not on Debian > because I use the list. > > You would get different answers on the SuSE list. As I said, it is horses > for > courses. We are all different and we like different things! > You are correct, but not only because I asked the question on the debian list, I got a true response and I do consider debian a nice distro because I found its glory for being a 'robust' as well as 'stable' distro! On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 7:25 AM, Aaron Toponce <aaron.topo...@gmail.com>wrote: I don't care for openSUSE personally > You don't care only because you don't like...? I guess... On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 12:10 AM, francis picabia <fpica...@gmail.com>wrote: Living with a distro is often far different than a fresh install. > The reason for it could be that while a fresh install could look great but to remain after that could not be that exciting (....)! > 1. what are you going to do with this Linux OS - it is often more > than running the OS itself, or else anything would do > With Linux OS I just have to learn the basics of Linux and use that one particular distro only in the future too. People say (and I also have came to know) that Linux is far much better than Windows, so must be learnt and for this a distro is required. I guess once I start with a particular distro, I should remain with it, so initial stage is important in selection. Of course, stability, security and entertainment all are parts of using computers in our daily life. > 2. how do you hope to maintain this Linux OS - will you buy a new > system every time you need to do a major upgrade on the OS? > Sorry, but I would not buy new system each time, does Linux up-gradation requires too buy a new system or just it is a myth, but smooth installations and up-gradation too go! > If your answers point to things like running amavisd-new as part of an > anti-spam solution, then you will want the breadth of packages > found in Debian and not found in the likes of Redhat. > That's a nice point. It means that Debain is better than Redhat in that regard. > If your answers point to the desire to install once and upgrade > on top of that installation, then you will want the well tested > capability of Debian to handle this process. > This again a nice point, Debian is very stable and robust then. > If you don't plan to use it in any sort of production purpose > (e.g. providing corporate web or email services), and you > just want to tinker, then you should not decide on an OS, > but just play with all of the mature Linux distribution releases. > Could you please tell me those mature Linux distribution releases (so that while up-gradations I don't need to buy a new system and neither would those distro break the system). And also I don't need Debian in any company or corporate environment, I just want to use the Linux at my home for secure bank transactions as well for entertainment and learning. > You'll find your own opinions and your Linux home that way. > That is correct but others experience and the people here too having great experiences could give me something before any expedition(s) I go for! On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 2:28 AM, Camaleón <noela...@gmail.com> wrote: I'm not sure that "stability" and "freedom" were inside the "novice" part > but anyway, openSUSE is also stable (rock solid) and cares about your > freedom ;-) Stability and freedom are whether (or not) inside the novice part, I really don't know but they must be even if novice doesn't know these facts, after they (novices) get some legs wet in the distro they came to know that 'the distro gave them a rock solid stability and security' even when they didn't know about it! openSUSE too might be a rock solid distro (as you say). On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Camaleón <noela...@gmail.com> wrote: You start thinking more deeply in what a distribution can > provide once you have a little more background with linux, which can be > one year or two later.. That is very correct and for that only I am thinking that the initial selection should be chosen very accurately. And as said, again I have the reason, "With Linux OS I just have to learn the basics of Linux and use that one particular distro only in the future too. People say (and I also have came to know) that Linux is far much better than Windows, so must be learnt and for this a distro is required. I guess once I start with a particular distro, I should remain with it, so initial stage is important in selection. Of course, stability, security and entertainment all are parts of using computers in our daily life." On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 7:11 AM, Burhan Hanoglu <burhano...@gmail.com>wrote: But don't forget that OpenSuse is a testing environment for SLES, same > way Fedora is for RHEL. Well; this doesn't mean they are bad distros, > but a fact is still a fact....:) > Okk. It means that they soon changes but at least Debian is rock solid stable (because it is not the test bed of anybody like SLES or RHEL or anyother...). Is it exactly like this that Debian is only for those who need a very stable distro rather than becoming a test bed for the services to any other commercial product(s)...? Thx.
