On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:36:44 +0000, Joe wrote: > On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:20:20 +0000 (UTC) Camaleón <noela...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> > No, not an option. Gnome3 does not work on my hardware. >> >> (...) >> >> I doub it. >> >> Maybe you wanted to say "gnome-shell"? >> >> > I don't know. I've just done a long-overdue upgrade on my laptop, with > exactly the same result. Not unexpectedly, as it was the cheapest I > could buy about five years ago.
What result is that? > The message says that Gnome3 cannot be run on the graphics hardware, and > gives me the fallback. Possibly it's gnome-shell that is the problem, > but that's not what it tells me. Gnome seem to identify Gnome3 very > strongly with the visual appearance, rather than the functionality. The message is biased, that's "gnome-shell" speaking but you can still make use of the fallback mode (and so GNOME3) as it says. > Perhaps if the Gnome developers had chosen to offer informative error > messages, telling me exactly what wasn't right, I might investigate and > solve it, but I get the general impression that they don't give a damn > whether it works for me or not. If it doesn't, tough. GNOME developers provide lots of information about GNOME3 and the new gnome-shell: https://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell You can use that page as a start point to get a clue on why your VGA is not capable of running gnome-shell. > It's not the fact that there is a problem which I find offensive. I've > run sid for years on both machines and my last desktop, so I don't > expect an easy ride. But I don't find either this upgrade experience or > the Gnome website to reach the standard I expect of Open Source, there's > a smugness and indifference which I feel is more characteristic of some > commercial software providers. If you are dissatisfied whith the current level of information, you can help to improve it. And if you experience any error when login to your session, you can review the current open bug reports gnome-shell package it has and yo will see that you're not alone. In the end, you're running testing/sid, right? > And I hate to invoke the Godwin's Law of Open Source, but my other > workstation isn't up to running the fancy graphical bits of Windows 7, > either, but Microsoft provide a perfectly good and fully-functional > alternative, and don't warn me that it will only work for a while. I agree. MS has done a very good job by allowing users to get a basic desktop or a fancy one in just a couple of clicks. > I'm trying Xfce on the laptop. Oh, fine :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.11.14.13.06...@gmail.com
