On Tue, 01 May 2012 12:05:42 -0500, Indulekha wrote: > On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 06:31:01PM +0200, Camaleón wrote:
>> > Apparently you don't have nntp access to actual usenet then? There is >> > def a newsgroup, linux.debian.user, which is on usenet. It uses a >> > mail2news gateway to duplicate this list, and it's what I was using >> > to read it. Someone thought it would be a good idea to have cutesy >> > headers, which break threading if you reply to this list via that >> > group. As I'd actually read this group there for over a year before >> > attempting to reply, that annoyed the living hell out of me. >> >> Is not that... yes, I'm using "linux.debian.user" but what happens is >> that Debian mailing lists are, well, "mailing lists", there's no native >> NNTP server managing the posts, they have to be converted from/to >> e-mail/news so what we (you and me) are using is more like an hybrid, >> in the end whatever handles the posts have to talk with a mailing list >> server software, not a "news" server and here is where the mess starts >> ;-) >> >> > Well, the mail2news gateway does record the original headers before it > cluelessly discards them, so it should be trivial to preserve them to be > used appropriately for the sake of interoperability. It's quite annoying > when people do things *almost* correctly for year after year when it's > trivial to just do it correctly. Also, there were many other factors > involved yesterday, so it was the wrong day for me to have to redo > things I'd thought were already solved and I got a bit pissy over it. Blame your mail2news gateway provider then. I don't experience that problem with Gmane :-) >> > Been using news.individual.net for years now, at times with leafnode. >> > The issue is "let usenet work as it always did". I fondly remember >> > the days when usenet was actually informative and useful. Yes, I'm >> > old and sometimes quite cranky... :) >> >> I did not use Usenet, I started at the times of IRC and then mailing >> lists and forums but after having used both systems (nntp and mailing >> lists) I still consider the former a must for todays "one-to-many" >> communication system. >> >> > Well, I miss the usenet we once had. > In fact, there's not much reason left for me to renew my > news.individual.net account in June and I doubt I will. The skriptkidz, > spammers, and trolls have about driven everything useful away. They > weren't kidding about the Eternal September! Gmane also does a good job when it comes to block the spam it reaches the lists. Oh, oh... now I feel like a "human-advertising" :-P > Oh well, here comes the future... > I notice as I age it takes a bit more work to keep a clean slate and > open mind. Worth the effort, though. :) And I can't but concur with that perception. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jnp743$d12$1...@dough.gmane.org