ok, here's one i can't figure out: looking at /dev/pts
when i open a gnome terminal and open several more tabs it usually looks like: crw--w---- 1 me tty 136, 0 Sep 3 20:05 0 crw--w---- 1 me tty 136, 1 Sep 3 20:04 1 crw--w---- 1 me tty 136, 2 Sep 3 20:04 2 crw--w---- 1 me tty 136, 3 Sep 3 20:05 3 crw--w---- 1 me tty 136, 4 Sep 3 20:05 4 somehow (i can't say what happened or i'd have the answer), now it looks like: crw--w---- 1 me tty 136, 0 Sep 3 20:05 0 crw--w---- 1 me tty 136, 1 Sep 3 20:10 1 crw--w---- 1 root tty 136, 2 Sep 4 2012 2 crw--w---- 1 me tty 136, 3 Sep 3 20:05 3 crw--w---- 1 me tty 136, 4 Sep 3 20:05 4 c--------- 1 root root 5, 2 Sep 3 14:53 ptmx and when i open tabs i never get a tty of /dev/pts/2 when i use the tty command, it skips from 1 to 3. it's like it's hung up or reserved somehow. i have rebooted, reinstalled the kernel and downgraded and reupgradeds that also downgraded udev and reupgraded udev and this virtual device never goes away unless i reboot into single user mode. otherwise it's there even though i don't have extra tabs open. like: crw--w---- 1 me tty 136, 0 Sep 3 20:05 0 crw--w---- 1 root tty 136, 2 Sep 4 2012 2 c--------- 1 root root 5, 2 Sep 3 14:53 ptmx i have set up a different user under Gnome and that didn't make any difference (just in case it was somehow a Gnome terminal thing). i'll admit i don't quite get initramfs setup and /run or how these things get initialized and how the different layers of udev (/etc/, /lib/, /run) work so i'm guessing that somehow a configuration got set in /etc/ and then was propagated back to initramfs when i upgraded the kernel so that now it is "there" and i can't get it out...). so are there any ideas on how to remove /dev/pts/2 or reset the whole udev tty virtual device setup? i'm reading what i can find for udev and pts docs, but nothing seems to tell me how to delete this device or to refresh the udev setup from scratch to get rid of this dangling pts... udev, kernel, version: ii libudev0:i386 175-7 i386 libudev shared library ii udev 175-7 i386 /dev/ and hotplug management daemon ii linux-image-3.5-trunk-686-pae 3.5.2-1~experimental.1 i386 Linux 3.5 for modern PCs thanks for any ideas, it sure has me puzzled... songbird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/omufh9-fi4....@id-306963.user.uni-berlin.de