On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 3:07 AM, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net> wrote: > On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 15:07 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
>> Is this the best place for systemd assistance? > > The best place to get assistance are the insane people who try to force > this into every Linux distribution, with LP leading the way. >> First, systemd worked. >> Now it hangs on bootup > > That's a feature of systemd. This is a list for technical assistance so if you want to vent about a developer, a package, a distribution, or whatever, please start a blog. >> So I now edit grub entry and use /sbin/init to log in to post this. > > That's only possible, because Debian still does support udev, policykit > etc.. Today I continue to set up Debian or Ubuntu as replacement for my > Arch Linux, because the switch to systemd ships with features like hangs > on bootup. Nothing but innacuracy and FUD, as usual. As I've pointed out in another thread/post [1], you're confusing consolekit and policykit. Policykit is a standalone application/package. Consolekit on the other hand has been deprecated upstream and replaced with systemd by systemd-logind. Please point to an email (or a blog post) in which one of David Zeuthen, Lennart Poettering, or Kay Sievers has announced that policykit was being merged into systemd like udev. All distributions "support udev" whether they boot via systemd or not. The problem is that it's no longer possible for recent versions of udev to compile it without compiling systemd too. It's silly for systemd's developers to have done this and they're being rather pig-headed about allowing udev to be compiled directly as a standalone package, so perhaps you could vent about that in your first blog post... systemd has been the default on Fedora for 18 months and it's been working just fine. It might have some integration problems on Arch and Debian, especially if you migrate to systemd as you have to do on Debian rather than install it directly as is now the default for Arch. 1. http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/11/msg00608.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=Szxwn5nXY2z=e3pzr5cdrsx_0lsfehkvd-qzytbhmr...@mail.gmail.com
