On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 09:59:35 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 10 iun 13, 04:04:41, Hendrik Boom wrote: >> >> I think -- maybe I should ask it to shut down wifi altogether (using >> the network manager's menu, and then ask it to turn it on again. Maybe >> then it will rescan. > > Yes, it will. > >> But instead, after turning it off, the item has vanished from the menu, >> and I can find no way to get it back. > > What item from which menu? I'm assuming you mean the "Enable Wi-Fi" item > in the nm-applet right-click menu.
Yes, that was the item. It should not disappear. > > [snip] > >> It looks as if somewhere Linux has got the idea that wifi is supposed >> to be off, and upon boot it tells the BIOS to disable the WLAN device. >> And then the network manager thinks I don't have a wifi device and >> refuses to give me any options to turn it on again. > > As far as I recall Network Manager is using rfkill to disable the > WiFi[1]. See if the command 'rfkill' helps. rfkill worked. I first had to install it. Good thing I still had a wired ethernet socket on the machine. > [1] this generally is not such a bad idea, because it will save power. It would be a much better idea if it didn't abrogate the possibility of turning it on again. Technically, I suppose the possibility is still there, becaus I could use rfkill. But switching from a menu to a unknown root-level shell command is a terrible user interface. -- hendrik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/kp511g$22r$2...@ger.gmane.org