On Wed, 2013-11-20 at 09:08 +0100, Slavko wrote: > Please, how useful are Arch's things for me as Debian user?
My apologies Slavko, I'll rephrase it, the state of Debian's testing initscripts/systemd seems to be neither fish nor fowl. When I experienced this on Arch Linux during the transition from initscripts to systemd, I didn't use it for perhaps 1 year and then, when the transition was finished, there wasn't the choice to use initscripts or systemd anymore, I installed a new Arch Linux. Switching from initscripts to systemd was the only transition ever, that caused issues for me and I'm still not friend with systemd. Fortunately only one user on this list fears to run an upgrade of Debian testing, since it seems not to be usual that the upgrade does pull in systemd, but the assumption that it's a dependency is plausible and those dependencies from upstrem will cause a lot of work, when Debian continues to separate udev from systemd and enables to use initscripts or systemd. I decided to use my tower PC as a mobile device, so that it makes sense to install systemd and I have a cron job running, rebooting every 2 hours, to see the big advantage of systemd, since anything else but the speed of booting is a step in the wrong direction, instead of human readable scripts, one big binary blob, associated with the name Lennart P.. Seriously, systemd is crap, but using it anyway, in the end will cause less issues, since some guys made it a new Linux standard. IMO it's better to live with systemd's disadvantages, to switch as early as possible to a clean systemd, than to hope that it will be possible to stay with initscripts. Big brother already decided, that initscripts is dead. A long time ago, most other distros already switched. Regards, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1384940041.1207.209.camel@archlinux