On 02/03/14 12:26, ghaverla wrote:
> On Sun, 02 Mar 2014 01:28:38 +0100
> Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net> wrote:
> 
>> We Arch users made a poll. Even if more users would have been against
>> systemd, the developers would have switched to systemd, but most users
>> wanted systemd. We, around 49% and me were against systemd, but around
>> 51 % were pro systemd. Nowadays it makes live easier for all of us who
>> use several different distros, when _all_ or at least the most
>> important distros will switch to systemd. To discuss pros and cons of
>> systemd a time machine is needed, to go back more than 3 years ago.
>> To discuss it in 2014 is a little bit to late.
> 
<snipped>

> Hence, I (not the person who started this thread) couldn't have engaged
> in debate 3+ years ago either. 

If you were a Debian developer you would have been made aware of systemd.
If you were a Debian developer you'd have been able to participate in a
relevant debate. Debian users debating the issue is about as effective
as us debating gravity - it might make us feel our opinions are
validated but has no effect on reality.

> I disagree with the binaryness of
> systemd.

Do you mean the *one* binary in systemd?  I'm pretty sure the source is
available.

> 
> But knowing Debian was going to change, I went looking for refuge, and
> things derived from Gentoo might be home, things derived from Slackware
> might be home.

Choice is good. Fortunately it's one of the key benefits of Open Source
development.

<snipped>

Kind regards


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