On 20140425_1642-0700, David Glover-Aoki wrote: > On 25 Apr 2014, at 03:04 pm, Dale Harris <rod...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Soon systemd will just become the OS, there will be no Linux...
Look in Wikipedia for 'linux cgroups'. There is a lot of information about what has happened internally to the Linux kernel, and a bunch of projects that operate outside the kernel. There are a bunch of short articles in Wikipedia that are worth looking at to get a top level idea of what is going on. I started with 'linux cgroups', and followed the 'see also' and hot links. My user level view is that cgroups are a permanent new feature of Linux. Systemd is not a 'replacement' for Linux, but a replacement for init, as we had come to know it. The new version uses cgroup, and related new features in the kernel, to reliably automate functions that were previously done by shared control in user-space and kernel-space. About the binary log file. My sense from reading the Wikipedia stuff is that the 'binary log file' might more properly be called a journal file in the sense that file systems ext3 and ext4 have a journal file, i.e. temporary storage for critical, but ephemeral, internal information. Its format is governed by its use within the kernel; not by user wishful thinking. It should be trivial for a skilled person to write a user-readable traditional system log file, but the new kernel is seriously multithreaded, and the result might not be useful to anyone. Certainly the kernel developers are making progress on cgroups, et.al., without an old style log. They must have developed new substitute diagnostic tools. > I am genuinely convinced that this is the ultimate goal of the systemd devs. I am genuinely convinced that the ultimate goal of the systemd devs is a better, more manageable kernel/init system. The old way will continue to exist, but won't be the platform on which useful innovation is implemented. IMHO > > -- > David Glover-Aoki | https://david.gloveraoki.net/contact > PGP key 5518C7DE | Amateur Radio KJ6TLX > > > Welcome to the future. I didn't like it either, until I realized the alternative was much worse. Cheers, -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140426135626.ga25...@big.lan.gnu