On Tue, 20 May 2014 21:47:57 +1000 Zenaan Harkness <z...@freedbms.net> wrote:
> On 5/20/14, Celejar <cele...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Sat, 17 May 2014 21:40:56 +1000 > > Zenaan Harkness <z...@freedbms.net> wrote: > >> On 5/17/14, Slavko <li...@slavino.sk> wrote: > > ... > >> > Don't forget, that justice is not when all criminals are imprisoned > >> > and/or punished, but when no one blameless is persecuted. > >> > >> Very eloquent and beautiful words. > >> Thank you Slavko. > > > > But this is precisely the problem with some of the dogmatic idealists > > here - by this logic, we should abolish criminal justice entirely, as > > it's virtually impossible to guarantee that "no one blameless" will > > ever be "persecuted": > > http://www2.law.ucla.edu/volokh/guilty.htm > > I don't remember reading the words Slavko posted before, but the way I > read it is as: > "we must make our best efforts to not persecute blameless people" and > "if blameless people are being persecuted, we must make more efforts > [eg with our criminal justice system - to fix this problem]". > > So not abolish criminal justice, but make more efforts in this system > to reduce/minimize persecution/punishment of people who should not be > punished. > > Of course perfection cannot be achieved in reality, I agree. Of course. But while it's certainly not a zero-sum game, there's generally going to be a trade-off: increasing protections for defendants will save some innocents, at the expense of letting some guilty go free. The same goes for IP regulation: many of us at least believe that the law should balance the rights of the IP holders with the rights of the consumer, and insisting on absolute freedom for the consumer at the expense of the rights of the rights-holders is wrong. Celejar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140520090712.877457f7cfc322145e246...@gmail.com
