On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, Brian wrote: > On Mon 11 Aug 2014 at 18:47:40 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > On Mon, 11 Aug 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > > On Du, 10 aug 14, 17:30:20, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > > > > > III. INSTALL X > > > > > > > > A. Quick & Dirty, but bloated: 'apt-get install xorg' > > > > B. Lean & Mean: 'apt-get install xserver-xorg-core > > > > xinit' > > > > > > Are you sure about this? As far as I can tell this will not > > > install > > > > For B? Yes. Basically, that's all I installed to get X running, but > > without a window manager, you couldn't do anything with it. The > > window manager came next. > > xserver-xorg-core and xinit are insufficient by themselves. To have > startx bring up X you need /usr/bin/X, which is in the xserver-xorg > package. But xserver-org depends on one of xserver-xorg-video-* and > one of xserver-xorg-input-* (I use xserver-xorg-input-evdev).
Maybe, I should clarify: when I say I installed xserver-xorg-core, etc,, I don't mean I installed just THAT package. I let apt-get installed the dependencies, too; but not the recommends. The latter I did manually as needed. > Even now we have not finished because xinit (used by startx) wants to > run an xterm by default. An x-terminal emulator is required and no WM > will pull it (or xserver-xorg-video-*, xserver-xorg-input-* and > xserver-xorg) in. > > > > any of the xserver-xorg-video- or xserver-xorg-input- packages. > > > One would need at a minimum xserver-xorg-input-evdev and the > > > -video- package corresponding to the video adapter (or one of > > > -vesa or -fbdev, but these give poor performance). > > > > You might not believe it, but I basically had no problems with this > > step-by-step install, and the system just hums along quite nicely. > > Very snappy. Very stable. Never crashed. > > Your notes are amongst the best I have seen on this topic of a minimal > desktop install. My objective has sometimes been a little different > and I've dispensed with the standard system utilities and got one or > two of its packages later. Thanks. But what I posted is a mere outline of my install notes, a synopsis. The actual notes themselves run the front and back of 4 or 5 8.5 x 11 inch pages in tiny handwritten print. They include the complete process, everything that was installed, the order that it was installed, and any problems and how they were rectified. I've yet to transcribe them to a more readable form -- even my printing is barely legible. ;-) The outline I posted here was done for someone on this list last year who wanted to do the same thing I did, but I sent it privately to him. > Also, it can quite nice for users not to have type 'startx' and nodm > is a lightweight solution to that. I decide not to go that route as a safeguard. If something went wrong setting up X and the GUI, I could reboot and be at a working terminal to fix it or try something else. After everything was finished, I just left it instead of booting directly to the GUI. I don't reboot that often. I just run the system 24/7 only turning off the monitor when I'm finished for the day. So, typing startx two or three times a year is not inconvenient. ;-) B -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140812091559.58ec0...@debian7.boseck208.net
