On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 05:13:24PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > 2014/09/15 2:53 "Bartosz Olender" <bartek.olen...@gmail.com>: > > > > I am probably one of the few people (at least from what I can see by > > following this topic) on this mailing list, that don't mind systemd and > > see that the benefits of switching to it outclass the negatives. > > Therefore I want to poke my three cents into this discussion reminding > > that "GNU is *Not* Unix" and because of that we should have the freedom > > to create better solutions, rather than being a UNIX purist and keeping > > it old-school. > > > > Plan 9 is [...] > > Very nice social engineering job. Turned into a nice tarpit, too. > > Guys we've got better things to do than get sucked into this kind of > quibbling. > > Steve's working on alternatives to debian+systemd.* and I'm trying to > figure out what useful function systemd and friends really perform so that > we can make something that the developers can use instead. Steve seems to > be having more success than I. > > (It looks like dbus was one of the wedges, and that stupid logging daemon, > but there's another one or two hiding somewhere. The wrecking crew have > left us a lot of work, poisoning the well to make systemd appear essential.)
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