I was just banned from debian forum for posting a systemd critical message.
I posted the message found here: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/09/msg01834.html It was deleted twice and then: You have been *permanently* banned from this board. Please contact the Board Administrator <forumad...@forums.debian.net> for more information. Reason given for ban: *You know why* *A ban has been issued on your username.* On Thursday, September 25, 2014, Rob Owens <row...@ptd.net> wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Steve Litt" <sl...@troubleshooters.com <javascript:;>> > > > > On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 13:13:51 -0400 (EDT) > > Rob Owens <row...@ptd.net <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "The Wanderer" <wande...@fastmail.fm <javascript:;>> > > > > > > > > On 09/22/2014 at 06:54 AM, Darac Marjal wrote: > > > > > > > > Those are votes for Debian, but not for systemd, or for "Debian with > > > > systemd as central". > > > > > > > > In the case at hand, the latter two are what people are asking to be > > > > able to have a vote (or at least meaningful input other than making > > > > noise) on, by virtue of being users who will be affected by the > > > > decision rather than by virtue of doing work to implement the > > > > decision. > > > > > > I think the best voting method at this time is popularity-contest. > > > Make sure you have PARTICIPATE set to "yes". > > > > > > Of course the vote is stacked somewhat in favor of systemd-sysv, > > > since it is the default and in some cases unavoidable due to > > > dependencies of desktop software. So all of the "systemd-sysv" votes > > > in popularity-contest represent either: > > > > > > 1) people who prefer systemd-sysv > > > 2) people who got systemd-sysv as a result of dependencies of > > > installing a package that they really do want 3) people who don't > > > care enough to switch away from the default, or 4) people who aren't > > > aware of the options, don't know what an init system is, etc. > > > > > > -Rob > > > > That's not really a true choice. There are a lot of other init programs > > out there, any one of which could be voted for. There's the position > > "let's wait until we have a good init to move to", which is very > > different from "let's use sysvinit". There's no place to write in an > > "other". > > > Steve, > > Popularity-contest simply keeps track of what packages are installed on a > user's system. So unless you install an init system from source, your > "vote" would be counted. (To be clear, I'm not sure if it would be counted > if you installed a third-party package). > > I agree that "let's wait until we have a good init to move to" should have > been more seriously considered, but for some reason people were in a big > hurry to make a move. > > Anyway, 'dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest' to make sure it's enabled. > > -Rob > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > <javascript:;> > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org <javascript:;> > Archive: > https://lists.debian.org/1297701578.3738240.1411656178400.javamail.zim...@ptd.net > >