On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 17:47:43 +1000 Charlie sent: > > On Wed, 1 Oct 2014 17:33:43 -0700 Vincent mentioned this: > Re: fvwm: was i3 sticky/floating windows (brasero requires > gvfs). > > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:30 AM, Charlie > > <aries...@ipstarmail.com.au> wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 17:51:41 -0700 Vincent mentioned this: > > > Re: fvwm: was i3 sticky/floating windows (brasero requires > > > gvfs). > > > > > >> On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Charlie > > >> <aries...@ipstarmail.com.au> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 16:20:27 +0200 lee mentioned this: > > >> > Re: fvwm: was i3 sticky/floating windows (brasero > > >> > requires gvfs). > > >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> >> Steve Litt <sl...@troubleshooters.com> writes: > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> Because you use fvwm on a regular basis, you should write > > >> >> >> some documentation on it. > > >> >> > > >> >> Please check out [1] --- let me know if it works for you and > > >> >> how you like it. > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> [1]: https://github.com/lee-/fvwm > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> -- > > >> >> Knowledge is volatile and fluid. Software is power. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > From my keyboard: > > >> > > > >> > Hello Lee, > > >> > > > >> > I've just had a cursory read and you have put a lot of > > >> > effort into this. Thank you on behalf of those of us who will > > >> > appreciate and use it. > > >> > > > >> > I have a meeting to attend this morning that will keep me away > > >> > most of the day, so I won't have the time to read all of it > > >> > till I return. > > >> > > > >> > But just quickly and without the history why I moved from fvwm > > >> > to xfce4. > > >> > > > >> > I used the win95 script to get an fvwm setup quickly. I'm > > >> > tweaking as i go along as time permits. > > >> > > > >> > I wanted to get the Debian Menu into the fvwm Root menu to get > > >> > rid of the taskbar but have not found yet, how that can be > > >> > done. > > >> > > > >> > > >> Examples of how the Debian menu is configured and used is > > >> provided as part of the Fvwm package, > > >> under /usr/share/doc/fvwm/examples/. > > >> > > >> It is composed of three parts: > > >> 1. A function definition > > >> > > >> DestroyFunc SetDebianMenu > > >> AddToFunc SetDebianMenu > > >> + I Read /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook > > >> > > >> Which when called will read from the menudefs.hook under > > >> /etc/X11/fvwm/. This menudefs.hook defines the structure of the > > >> Debian menu, but is not yet linked to your personal menu. The > > >> name of the Debian menu is "/Debian". > > >> > > >> 2. Calling the function > > >> > > >> Test (f /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook) SetDebianMenu > > >> > > >> Which will first test if the menu exists, then calls the function > > >> defined in step 1. This line can be put anywhere you like, as > > >> long as it's after the function definition. > > >> > > >> 3. Add the Debian menu to your menu > > >> > > >> Test (f /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook) + "Debian Menu" Popup > > >> "/Debian" > > >> > > >> Insert this as part of your menu definitions, under > > >> 'AddToMenu ...'. This instructs Fvwm to insert an entry to popup > > >> the menu "/Debian". > > >> > > >> Hope it helps, > > >> > > >> Vincent Chen > > > > > > > > > From my keyboard: > > > > > > Hello Vincent, > > > > > > Thanks you for that. Doesn't do it for me. I want to get rid > > > of the taskbar and just have the Debian menu available through the > > > left mouse click on the desktop instead. > > > > > > But it doesn't work for me at all. I can get rid of the taskbar, > > > but then I don't have a Debian menu I can call up every > > > application in the Debian menu in a terminal, but that's just too > > > tedious. > > > > > That's because you didn't follow the steps I laid out. Insert the > > snippets I provided in step 1 and 2 directly in your config file. > > Not inside the root menu or any other directives, but directly in > > your config file. > > > > > In my menus - Root Menu - there is already this in part: > > > > > > + "&Restart%mini.turn.xpm%" Popup Restart > > > + "&Quit fvwm%mini.stop.xpm%" FvwmForm > > > FvwmForm-QuitVerify Test (f /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook) + > > > "$[gt.&Update My Debian Menu]%menu/terminal.xpm%" PipeRead > > > 'update-menus && echo "Read $./menudefs.hook"' > > > > > Because this does exactly what it says: "Update My Debian Menu". > > _IF_ you already have a Debian menu, clicking this entry will > > update the Debian menu. This has nothing to do with actually > > providing the Debian menu entry in your menu. > > > > > But It doesn't show up so I might have to edit it, but don't know > > > how. So will have to keep playing about when I get time. > > > > > Insert the snippet in step 3 in your menu. That's what will actually > > insert the Debian menu entry in your own menu. > > > > I'll try and restate what is being done: > > - Steps 1 and 2 defines the structure of the Debian menu, and makes > > Fvwm aware of what the Debian menu looks like. > > - Step 3 is what makes Fvwm actually show the Debian menu as a menu > > entry. > > > > If you only do steps 1 and 2, Fvwm will know about the Debian menu, > > but does not display it anywhere. If you only do step 3, Fvwm will > > display a menu entry, but will have no idea what this "/Debian" menu > > is. > > > > Regards, > > > > Vincent > > > From my keyboard: > > Hello Vincent, > > Thank you for your patience. I have done as you suggested. I > assume that 1 is a function, so have placed in ~/.fvwm/function > this: > > #---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > # This is the Debian menu call as suggested by Vincent W Chen. > # Debian Menu > #---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > DestroyFunc SetDebianMenu > AddToFunc SetDebianMenu > + I Read /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook > Test (f /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook) SetDebianMenu > > #------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > That appears where functions like this are entered? > > Then in ~/.fvwm/menus have placed the other at the end, as seen here: > > #------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # Root Menu: This menu will fire up some very common utilities > #------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > DestroyMenu Utilities > AddToMenu Utilities "Root Menu" Title > #PREF 3 > + "&Terminal%mini.term.xpm%" Exec exec xterm > + "&Editor%mini.kate.xpm%" Exec exec kate > + "&File Manager%mini.filemgr.xpm%" Exec exec xterm -g 80x35 -e > mc > + "&Top%mini.run.xpm%" Exec exec xterm > -geometry 80x40 -T Top -n Top -e top > + "" Nop > + "&Shells%mini.term.xpm%" Popup Shells > + "&Programs%mini.start.xpm%" Popup Programs > + "" Nop > + "Fvwm &Modules%mini.modules.xpm%" Popup Module-Popup > + "&Settings%mini.desktop.xpm%" Popup Settings > + "&Documents%mini.books.xpm%" Popup Documents > + "&Screen Saver%mini.display.xpm%" Popup Screen > + "" Nop > + "&Restart%mini.turn.xpm%" Popup Restart > + "&Quit fvwm%mini.stop.xpm%" FvwmForm > FvwmForm-QuitVerify Test (f /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook) + > "$[gt.&Update My Debian Menu]%menu/terminal.xpm%" PipeRead > 'update-menus && echo "Read $./menudefs.hook"' > Test (f /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook) + "Debian Menu" Popup "/Debian" > > I have done those things from your previous emails. > > There is no joy. It doesn't show up, I still have to use "Start" from > the start menu which has the entry for Debian Menus. > > My .fvwm2rc has only read entries to read the various file, like > function, menus, modules etc., like this: > > #-----------------------------------------------------------------------------# > # > # Start the Show > # > #-----------------------------------------------------------------------------# > > Read decorations > > Read globalfeel > > Read menudefs.hook > > Read startup > > Read styles > > Read iconstyles > > Read functions > > Read bindings > > Read menus > > Read modules > > So obviously it either doesn't work on my system or I am putting the > function in the wrong function menu, or something else. > > There seems to be no place to put something else? All the rest of the > text is commented out? > > I have tried quite a few things, like put the taskbar entry: > > Test (f /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook) + "&Debian Menu%programs.xpm%" > Popup /Debian > > Into various locations, but no joy there either. > > I've added some applications to: ~/.fvwm/menudefs.hook but they don't > work unless I actually make the entries in /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook > I have no idea why it reads that entry before the one in the ~/.fvwm > home directory? > > All a bit tricky. > > Thanks for your time in this, but please don't waste any more time on > this. I feel guilty that you have already spent too much time already. > > Thank you, > Charlie
Hello Vincent, I left everything as described above. Deleted: Read bindings in my .fvwm2rc file and that now allows me to just click on the desktop and have access to the Debian Menu. I removed the taskbar by the relevant section in the functions file and this looks as I like just what, for me at least, is desired. Thanks for your time and help in this. Charlie -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 *********************************************** All are lunatics, but he who can analyze his delusions is called a philosopher. --Ambrose Bierce *********************************************** Debian GNU/Linux - just the best way to create magic ----------------------------------------------------- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141003090517.08544f0a@taogypsy