Hi. On Thu, 09 Oct 2014 19:17:46 +0200 Erwan David <er...@rail.eu.org> wrote:
> > So, if one is willing to do all it takes to remove said-pid1-process > > from the typical server installation - it's doable. But from the > > desktop one - it's much harder. > > > > However I have server with special setting that today I handle with > policy-rc.d > I have not the slightest idea how I can have this setup with systemd nor > any idea how to get any help for this. > > When I asked for doc, I was answered here "jusyt write it yourself"... That's one of the reasons I'm thinking to postpone that-pid1-process migration to jessie+1. I can understand the need of killing a useful tool for the greater cause (being upstream), but the thing that I don't understand is why kill the tool immediately if upstream wants it. And no, that isn't up to the discussion. I have no intention to start yet another that-pid1-process discussion thread. > Other setting, some very small PC used as router/FW. on a testing > machine, I see systemd memory foot print to be > 177096 VSS , 5556 resident 3100 shared. > > Thats HUGE. 8 Mo just for the init system, once th system is booted ? > I am not sure I will consider debian an alternative fore those PCs once > Jessie is stable... You haven't took into account journald, which uses /run (mounted in-memory) to write its' own blobs. With the limit of 1/2 of available physical memory by default. > What can I do except express my problems, but then I see an army of > zealots coming against me. > for me in some cases systemd just made linux unusable. Sad, but true. For instance, you can use the very same tools Debian provides you: equivs, dpkg-divert and dpkg-buildpackage. There's little that cannot be done with them if one needs to change some package behavior or dependencies. Requires playing a maintainer, but produces meaningful results in the end. Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141009214855.e2fdea1b457ff2f67caf6...@gmail.com