On Thu, 16 Oct 2014 11:28:50 -0400 Steve Litt <sl...@troubleshooters.com> wrote:
POINT OF CLARIFICATION: Nothing written below is nosh specific. It could be used with nosh, or upstart, or sysvinit, or any other PID1 that's *only* a PID1. So how about it, who wants to join me in neutering systemd on Debian and probably every other distro? > With everything I've learned during the systemd fiasco, if I were to > choose Debian's sysv-init, it would be nosh or something very much > like it. And, as far as I know, it's ready to go, and our only > involvement would be building replacements for formerly available > software that was replaced by systemd-welded substitutes. > > After Jonathan de Boyne Pollard revealing post from yesterday > (Wednesday, 10/15/2014), we could write some stupid-simple utilities > to individually do all the stuff that logind does, probably using > sudoers. Which means a big part of the task would be documentation, > and I can do that. > > Of course, we'd need to write substitutes for the other 3 major welded > and subsumed daemons, and some other stuff, but from what Jonathan > said, logind is the challenging one. > > IMHO we should spend absolutely no time or energy making this stuff > pretty, or even GUI if it presents challenges. If I'm guessing right > about the situation, people who want pretty wouldn't have a problem > with monolithic entanglement and vendor lock-in, just as long as they > didn't have to pay money for their OS. > > As a matter of fact, regardless of what the DDs do, it just might be > true that making either a systemd-free or systemd-neutered Debian > might be mainly a documentation problem, and I'm pretty good at > documentation. Who wants to join me? It's your chance to make Red-Hat > *really* hate you. And make a lot of Debian users and other Linux > people love you. > > SteveT > > Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/ > Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141016113419.37ea8...@mydesq2.domain.cxm
