On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 10:18:49 +0200 Raffaele Morelli <raffaele.more...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Here are some interesting things one should be aware of before > http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/the-biggest-myths.html We've all read that. My favorite Poettering manifesto is the one where he talks of systemd subsuming packaging systems: http://0pointer.net/blog/revisiting-how-we-put-together-linux-systems.html > > Read enough about but still haven't read something really valuable > against systemd from eg. Torvalds, Eric Steven Raymond, etc... (if > you do, post the link) Isn't this quote from ESR enough "against systemd"? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemd#Reception "very prone to mission creep and bloat and likely to turn into a nasty hairball over the longer term." As far as Torvalds, would this qualify as something really valuable against systemd? http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTY1MzA "Key, I'm f*cking tired of the fact that you don't fix problems in the code *you* write, so that the kernel then has to work around the problems you cause." > > I believe the main issue with systemd and the community mainly the > "badass-ness" Badass is a complement. Poettering is just an ass. But if I used ass-ness as a filter on software I use, I wouldn't use anything RMS created, because he can be an ass, and I wouldn't use anything from the Linux kernel, because Linus can be an ass. Ass-authored software is used every day, by all of us. The thing is, asses like Linus and RMS don't have a roadmap to the destruction of the software ecosystem that created them (any more). > of the guys in this "init system war" or whatever you > prefer to address at. > > Using systemd since 2014-08-09 with no issues. Good for you. Let's see if you have no issues 2016-08-09, if Red Hat wins its war against Linux. SteveT Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141021143639.64ed9...@mydesq2.domain.cxm