Sorry friend, like I said, I'm a new user.

This is on the Debian devs.

And if they choose NOT to do this, then ALL of the resulting (and
continuing/ongoing) systemd noise is ON THEM.

PERIOD.

Such a major change without classifying a bug like this as a SHOWSTOPPER
speaks volumes.

On 11/5/2014 1:03 PM, Don Armstrong <d...@debian.org> wrote:
> Quoting myself from
> http://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/20141021184619.gq28...@teltox.donarmstrong.com
> with modifications.
> 
> On Wed, 05 Nov 2014, Tanstaafl wrote:
>> Personally I think the biggest issue with Jessie at present is the
>> inability to do a clean install with sysvinit rather than systemd as
>> the init system.
> 
> That preseeding doesn't do this is a bug, it's filed (#668001), and the
> patch for it was just written on October 17th. Because Debian is going
> to freeze for Jessie in under 7 *hours*, the maintainers aren't going to
> apply this patch this close to release without extensive testing.
> 
> Furthermore, the effect of this patch is trivially obtained by using a
> late_command to remove systemd-sysv and install sysvinit-core.
> 
> If you actually want to see this patch applied to the version of the
> Debian installer that Jessie will release with, you should coordinate
> with the nice people in #debian-boot to see what type of testing they
> would want to see before they are willing to vet the patch.
> 


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