* On 2014 17 Nov 06:01 -0600, Eduard Bloch wrote: > Since systemd hatters usually fail on the second task, the rhetorical > arsenal is chosen accordingly (ad-hominem, trolling, misquoting, ...).
Here is the crux of the problem in these discussions and that is the use of "haters" as an ad hominem as part of the shaming language directed at those with concerns. It matters not who started it, but when one of the primary developers of systemd also engages in using this language to describe those who do have legitimate concerns, the discussion descends quickly into a non-productive direction especially when others follow his lead as being somehow acceptable. Personally, I do not "hate" systemd. While I have some concerns, I have been monitoring these threads for any technical tidbits and I've been using it to gain familiarity with what it offers and how to work with it. Unlike others, I do not have systems that are in an enterprise situation as mine are simply home desktops so my paycheck will not be impacted by the adoption of it. Despite that, I will not minimize or dismiss the concerns of others. - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141117134648.ga22...@n0nb.us