On 20/11/14 10:16, Brian wrote: > On Wed 19 Nov 2014 at 16:14:46 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: > >> Brian wrote: >>> On Wed 19 Nov 2014 at 12:41:45 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: >>> >>>> Jonathan Dowland wrote: >>>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 03:25:24AM +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote: >>>>>> No, not necessarily. For many, it means that Debian Linux is dying >>>>>> and will soon be dead -- or rather, no longer relevant. I just hope >>>>>> that the alternative in FreeBSD works out. >>>>> I encourage you to find out sooner, rather than later, but please don't >>>>> trouble to tell us whether it does or not. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Please DO report back. Some of us really do want to know the state >>>> of alternatives. >>> Apart from using your own resources to explore alternatives you will find >>> the experts at >>> >>> http://www.freelists.org/list/modular-debian >>> >>> The list is tailored exactly to your needs and the needs of others with >>> similar thinking. They are actively seeking recruits. I am confident you >>> will be welcomed into a congenial coterie of like-minded people where >>> discussion of other operating systems is always on the agenda. >>> >>> The vast majority on debian-user see this list as being for the support >>> of users who *use* Debian and not a talking shop about it. Encouragement >>> to pervert its purpose is little short of bad manners, no matter how >>> interesting a small number may find the topic. Please be considerate. >>> >> Ummm.... quite a few of us ARE using Debian, and HAVE BEEN using >> Debian, and discussion of comparisons and alternatives seems to be >> perfectly on topic. > > Nobody has mentioned 'on-topic' or 'off-topic' but the continual > rabbiting on (sorry, Scott)
No offence taken, I was simply trying to help those with genuine concerns (like Miles) and guide those with irrational fears on howto express them without jamming the lists with FUD (which threatens to discredit those with genuine concerns). I'll stop that now. > becomes a trifle wearing after five+ months. Agreed. > Using Debian isn't a reason to create a talking shop about every little > thing connected with it, especially when it is to the detriment of this > list. > > Excitment about having a group of like-minded people to converse with at > modular-debian appears lacking. > One wonders why? Desire for self-validation? Misery likes company? Despite claims of "there ain't no such thing as a free lunch" and "being bullied" - a small, vocal, minority persist in making demands of Debian (bullying and tanstaafl hypocrisy?). As evidenced by those seeking help on how to kill-list references to systemd, this results in debian users not seeking support on this list, which reduces useful feedback to developers amongst other problems - and lessens the chance of genuine problems with systemd becoming the *default* getting a fair hearing. > > Kind regards -- "idealist zealots - those that would burn the planet to save their backyard" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/546d296c.7090...@gmail.com