Quoting Martinx - ジェームズ (thiagocmarti...@gmail.com):
> On 12 March 2015 at 01:13, Don Armstrong <d...@debian.org> wrote:
> > On Wed, 11 Mar 2015, The Wanderer wrote:
> >> Running those commands doesn't give you output from 'systemctl stop
> >> foo' or the like, however.
[...]
> > I suppose someone could make an argument that including a verbose flag
> > or something might be useful, but considering that you can achieve
> > similar functionality with existing discrete tools, I'm not sure that
> > growing additional code and documentation to support such an option is
> > worth it.

As Vincent pointed out, this is on a todo list.

> > Look at the definition of start_unit in
> > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/tree/src/systemctl/systemctl.c
> > for the current code.

7½K of C? No thanks!

> By not "polluting" the Linux boot with "starting this [OK]", "starting
> that [OK]".... The Debian boot is now more "clear" with systemd, then,
> if I need a feedback, I can ask for it...

How?

If I don't have "quiet" in the kernel parameters line, I get something
that looks like dmesg on steroids, and it's impossible to tell what's
going on at all. OTOH with it, and I'm lucky to get anything at all. I
just sit and wait for a "clear-screen" (why does it do that and how do
I stop it? Is there a dont-clear-screen.service?) and a login prompt.

On random occasions, some messages do appear, just a little more
verbose than is convenient, but an improvement. However, these
messages usually mean trouble, and I finish up waiting for some
service to start, with no limit on the wait (Bug#778881) and have to
reboot.

Sometimes, I get a stalled shutdown in a similar manner, so I have to
hard-reset. If, as a result, the system decides to fsck the disk,
systemd gives no indication of the fact. Actually it's the same if you
force a full fsck with the kernel parameter: when systemd fscks the
root filesytem, all you see is that the disk is busy. You only get
progress % when it checks the other filesystems later on.

Cheers,
David.


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