-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 05/04/2015 11:01 PM, Glen Reesor wrote: > On 2015-05-03 16:00, Glen Reesor wrote: >> >> >> On 2015-05-03 14:20, Ralph Katz wrote: > Please don't top post; it makes following the thread harder. My > reply follows below... > > On 05/02/2015 07:23 PM, Glen Reesor wrote: >>>>> I've done some more research, and it appears that the fan >>>>> control is only happening at boot, in *both* the installed >>>>> system and the livecd. So if the machine is hot at boot, >>>>> the fan runs and stays running regardless of temperature >>>>> changes. If the machine is cool at boot, the fan doesn't >>>>> run, regardless of temperature changes. >>>>> >>>>> I've discovered interesting behavior with the sensors >>>>> command and acpi -t. >>>>> >>>>> Sensors currently shows: acpitz-virtual-0 Adapter: Virtual >>>>> device temp1: +40.0°C (crit = +100.0°C) <----- >>>>> This never changes after boot >>>>> >>>>> coretemp-isa-0000 Adapter: ISA adapter Core 0: >>>>> +56.0°C (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C) Core 1: >>>>> +57.0°C (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C) >>>>> >>>>> However acpi -t shows: Thermal 0: ok, 40.0 degrees C >>>>> >>>>> The temp1 line reported by sensors never changes after >>>>> boot, and neither does the output from acpi -t. So it looks >>>>> like acpi is looking at the wrong temperature, as it's only >>>>> the Core 0 and Core 1 temperatures that change. >>>>> >>>>> On 2015-05-02 10:02, Glen Reesor wrote: >>>>>> Some more information... >>>>>> >>>>>> I have confirmed that the fan runs when the Jessie livecd >>>>>> is running, but the fan doesn't run for amd64 or i386 >>>>>> installations. I've compared syslog, daemon.log, and >>>>>> lsmod and found: >>>>>> >>>>>> syslog: Both livecd and amd64 installation have these >>>>>> lines: kernel: [ 0.020564] CPU0: Thermal monitoring >>>>>> enabled (TM1) kernel: [ 0.943898] thermal LNXTHERM:00: >>>>>> registered as thermal_zone0 kernel: [ 0.943904] ACPI: >>>>>> Thermal Zone [TZ01] (50 C) >>>>>> >>>>>> syslog: There is a slight difference in the following >>>>>> line: livecd: kernel: [ 3.144083] acpi device:3a: >>>>>> registered as cooling_device0 amd64: kernel: [ >>>>>> 8.712124] acpi device:3a: registered as cooling_device2 >>>>>> >>>>>> lsmod has slight differences: livecd: thermal >>>>>> 17343 0 thermal_sys 27122 3 >>>>>> video,thermal,processor >>>>>> >>>>>> amd64: thermal 17559 0 thermal_sys >>>>>> 27642 3 video,thermal,processor >>>>>> >>>>>> In daemon.log, the amd64 installation has the following >>>>>> lines (but they may be the result of installing the >>>>>> sensors package, which the livecd does not have): May 2 >>>>>> 08:36:48 amd64 sensors[492]: acpitz-virtual-0 May 2 >>>>>> 08:36:48 amd64 sensors[492]: Adapter: Virtual device May >>>>>> 2 08:36:48 amd64 sensors[492]: temp1: +0.0°C (crit = >>>>>> +100.0°C) May 2 08:36:48 amd64 sensors[492]: >>>>>> coretemp-isa-0000 May 2 08:36:48 amd64 sensors[492]: >>>>>> Adapter: ISA adapter May 2 08:36:48 amd64 sensors[492]: >>>>>> Core 0: +25.0°C (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C) May >>>>>> 2 08:36:48 amd64 sensors[492]: Core 1: +26.0°C (high = >>>>>> +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C) >>>>>> >>>>>> Any help would be greatly appreciated. >>>>>> >>>>>> Glen >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2015-04-30 20:40, Glen Reesor wrote: >>>>>>> I have done a fresh install of Jessie on an old Acer >>>>>>> laptop and the fan never runs, so it overheats. >>>>>>> Interestingly, the fan *does* run while Jessie is being >>>>>>> installed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Has anyone had similar problems? Does anyone have >>>>>>> suggestions on how to diagnose this? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks. > > Glen, I'm not sure how much this will help, but my old Acer laptop > running Jessie seems to be fine out of the box. Here are some > comparable outputs [pasted as quotes to prevent line wrapping]: > >>>>> ralph@spike2 ~$ zgrep sensors /var/log/daemon.log* >>>>> /var/log/daemon.log.1:Apr 27 15:48:53 spike2 sensors[864]: >>>>> acpitz-virtual-0 /var/log/daemon.log.1:Apr 27 15:48:53 >>>>> spike2 sensors[864]: Adapter: Virtual device >>>>> /var/log/daemon.log.1:Apr 27 15:48:53 spike2 sensors[864]: >>>>> temp1: +50.0°C (crit = +87.0°C) >>>>> /var/log/daemon.log.1:Apr 27 15:48:53 spike2 sensors[864]: >>>>> temp2: +45.0°C (crit = +105.0°C) >>>>> /var/log/daemon.log.1:Apr 27 15:48:53 spike2 sensors[864]: >>>>> coretemp-isa-0000 /var/log/daemon.log.1:Apr 27 15:48:53 >>>>> spike2 sensors[864]: Adapter: ISA adapter >>>>> /var/log/daemon.log.1:Apr 27 15:48:53 spike2 sensors[864]: >>>>> Core 0: +44.0°C (high = +85.0°C, crit = +85.0°C) >>>>> /var/log/daemon.log.1:Apr 27 15:48:53 spike2 sensors[864]: >>>>> Core 1: +47.0°C (high = +85.0°C, crit = +85.0°C) >>>>> ralph@spike2 ~$ acpi -t -i Thermal 0: ok, 39.0 degrees C >>>>> Thermal 0: trip point 0 switches to mode critical at >>>>> temperature 105.0 degrees C Thermal 1: ok, 39.0 degrees C >>>>> Thermal 1: trip point 0 switches to mode critical at >>>>> temperature 87.0 degrees C Thermal 1: trip point 1 switches >>>>> to mode passive at temperature 83.0 degrees C ralph@spike2 >>>>> ~$ > Have you checked bug reports or searched the archives for hints? > A quick search will give you some clues: > https://duckduckgo.com/?q=site%3Adebian.org+fan+control&t=debian > > Also some packages may help, check out fancontrol and thinkfan. > There are others. > > Keep us posted. And please reply below this post so discussion > flows logically. > > Good luck! > > Ralph > > > >>> >>> >> Hi Ralph, Thanks for the suggestions. >> >> I've tried the fancontrol package, however it requires a >> configuration file written by pwmconfig, and pwmconfig reports >> "There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed". >> >> This lack of pwm-capable sensors also means that I can't use >> thinkfan. >> >> I've checked bug reports, and there are none that fit my >> description. I submitted my own bug report, since the lack of fan >> means that installation fails when encrypted lvm is used (system >> shuts down before it finishes writing random data to the disk). >> >> The output from acpi -t -i is: >>> Thermal 0: ok, 40.0 degrees C Thermal 0: trip point 0 switches >>> to mode critical at temperature >> 100.0 degrees C >> >> >> > Just a quick update that I have solved my problem. After much > research, I found this thread for Ubuntu, dating back to 2009: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/451337. It > described my problem exactly. Obviously it was too old to try > applying the kernel patches. Luckily I had an old XP install disk > hanging around and was able to upgrade the firmware. Now, even > under load, the temperature never breaks 70C. > > Thanks to people who responded. > > Glen
Glad you solved it, Glen. Marking it so for the archives. Thanks for reporting back to the list where others may find your solution. Regards, Ralph -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJVSOXhAAoJECe2FpioHXO619oH/jqSxZvfgYtRm+A+9UNSTjKd yayeUaZjECY0fx33X5ryUAnlJJaLcbQ8OyQZHEyeKMWQJcAQLpH56FKZ43uMjRyl kl8ooIHXeC9DzaLLLzvVwrr1nOFlhMYTFM7hD7jD2ZpA7ABRW1hLi+xhv1aOH1su 5o1fEfiDXPNEFiW2fPULZnMNA3FTQSeo5Fy1KPddDBNqXaL2isFpbd0SJhgwlJu+ P+4A6toei7IeEy24AngIyhKANJgrsvgWtGz1f7Gz9uAKyv3VmngMKeoin3MSqyu/ p0xZtkYRufk+GSpQU72lFMUY/N1Skgw7qREiixsycE+U04oTBx24ugCLrw47y2I= =A7N0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5548e5f5.5010...@rcn.com