On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 12:16 AM, Renaud OLGIATI <ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> wrote: > Systemd-Linux to get rid of su: > > https://tlhp.cf/lennart-poettering-su/ > > Is this a trend to make _all_ the GNU-Linux tools disappear, and have > _everything_ > incorporated into systemd ? > > Cheers, > > Ron.
My interpretation of that blog post ranges from He's trying to imitate Ted Unangst's doas, but decided sudo isn't a good enough target. to This is more of his attempting to extend the ability of systemd to completely wrap the kernel. As a median interpretation, their group has tried to use su for something they have in their roadmap, recognized the spec puts su outside their planned use, and is working on a tool similar to su, which provides a bit more of the fine-grained control they think they need (and less of the fine-grained control they don't want). And, because of the way they do things, they are currently selling their shiny new tool as an alternative to su, which means they may soon be coming around trying to get support from a lot of young, ambitious new programmers willing to develop a whole lot of code to replace a lot of system scripts that use su. Just more of that re-inventing the wheel thing over there. Since debian has decided to bring systemd in, it will affect us, but probably not this year. Joel Rees Be careful when you look at conspiracy. Arm yourself with knowledge of yourself, as well: http://reiisi.blogspot.jp/2011/10/conspiracy-theories.html