and i wanted to see how it looked and felt and if anything changed. so i took a chance and updated my MATE packages to the new versions.
so far with my initial testing the desktop looks the same with some improvements in the icons and a few other things, but mostly it is working fine. no crashes as of yet. i've not used all the various chunks yet either - so buyer beware! :) kudoes and thank you to the DDs and other helpers who put this together for Debian! the persistent warning that's been going on for a while and showing up in the error logs is still there. it's only a warning, but as of yet i don't know how to fix it or even what applet it is referring to: org.mate.panel.applet.WnckletFactory[1239]: ** (wnck-applet:1275): WARNING **: Failed to get pixmap 14682869,1667, google has not provided any more details either. songbird