On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 4:13 AM, Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeova...@gmail.com> wrote: > Like numerous linux users I have sometimes lamented coming to terms with > systemd. My belief is that it's a well-written collection of software which > is somewhat over-engineered. It fills a need, sure, though I've managed to > live and work without it for a long time (been using linux since 1994). And > who am I to question Torvalds and Co. on the subject of its suitability for > linux and the data center?
Have Linus and Lennart come to a meeting of minds or something? So I looked up "Torvalds systemd" and found a slashdot Q/A article with Torvalds in which someone asked him about systemd. Interesting. > So the other day I was on a recently-built Amazon AWS EC2 instance, running > one of the AWS-branded linux AMIs, fixing things in /etc/init.d. Thinking > about how AWS might rule the world someday, since they already hold about > 35-40% of the public cloud > (http://www.geekwire.com/2017/cloud-report-card-amazon-web-services-12b-juggernaut-microsoft-google-gaining/). > Then I had one of those "Duh!" moments: There must be on-the-order-of a > million of linux instances on the planet which are _not_ running systemd, as > AWS's own linux AMIs do not by default. > > It seems to me that this data point has been completely ignored in the > years-long discussions about systemd's merits, flaws and suitability. > > On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 4:34 PM, Jonathan Dowland <j...@debian.org> wrote: >> >> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 03:17:00PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: >> > Note: systemd is not for end-users, it is for system administrator and >> > distribution authors. >> >> {systemctl,journalctl,etc.} --user beg to differ. >> >> >> -- >> ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ >> ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland >> ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net >> ⠈⠳⣄⠀⠀⠀⠀ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list. > > -- Joel Rees I'm imagining I'm a novelist: http://joel-rees-economics.blogspot.com/2017/01/soc500-00-00-toc.html More of my delusions: http://reiisi.blogspot.jp/p/novels-i-am-writing.html -- Joel Rees I'm imagining I'm a novelist: http://joel-rees-economics.blogspot.com/2017/01/soc500-00-00-toc.html More of my delusions: http://reiisi.blogspot.jp/p/novels-i-am-writing.html