> From: a...@cityscape.co.uk > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > On Wed 19 Jul 2017 at 18:21:15 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: >> Fungi4All composed on 2017-07-19 17:39 (UTC-0400): >> > > 27 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. >> > Need to get 68.5 MB of archives.> After this operation, 242 MB of >> > additional disk space will be used. >> > Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n >> > Abort. >> >> > $ sudo apt-get upgrade >> ... >> > 25 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded. >> > Need to get 21.1 MB of archives. >> > After this operation, 145 kB of additional disk space will be used. >> > Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n >> > Abort. >> >> Prezactly! ;-) > The different results with apt upgrade as opposed to apt-get upgrade > are due to apt installing new packages, something which apt-get will > not do. Use apt-get dist-upgrade for that. The end result is the same.
I took your advise and used apt-get only across 4 Debian editions. It did not stop systemd from being installed all on its own. I started with 7, pretty minimal sysV and runit, slim, openbox, midori, 2-3 lxde pieces to save time and hustle, tried to go to 8. Every step systemd was installing I would take it off before I would restart. I couldn't even get the kernel to install properly. I would restore the initial 7 and tried to go to 9. Same ol, same ol. Testing .... I gave up and didn't even try to go straight to sid :) I thought maybe I can build a devuan. I would lose net-manager all the time and with wifi it became the impossible task to achieve. I don't remember how many times I had to remove firefox, deluge, and some other commercial "free" software. So much for the apt-get not installing shit on its own. But if it was that easy it wouldn't have taken Devuan so long to get it done.