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> gee, do you think this PackageKit thing might have something to do with
> it?  I'm on stretch, about two weeks into the new plasma, the first thing
> I did was purge discover, apper, and all the other windows clone stuff.
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yeah, i get that, but the packagekit systemd service is of type dbus, so
some other software must be using it to do updates.
My question was about how to find that. I have discover installed but
periodic updates are disabled.

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