Liam O'Toole wrote: >songbird wrote: ... >> i wish i had better answers for you than to suggest >> upgrade. so many changes have been made to MATE since >> 1.16... i'm not sure if the MATE devs would even get >> into trying to debug. > > Just to elaborate on that, MATE 1.18 is available in stretch-backports. > > https://packages.debian.org/stretch-backports/x11/mate-desktop-environment
an excellent option as would be 1.20 if it ever gets backported... i didn't think anyone was working on MATE backports so didn't even look. songbird