On Tue, 8 May 2018 00:10:50 +0100 Brian <a...@cityscape.co.uk> wrote:
> On Mon 07 May 2018 at 18:37:16 -0400, Dan Norton wrote: > > > On Mon, 7 May 2018 23:22:46 +0100 > > Brian <a...@cityscape.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > On Mon 07 May 2018 at 18:04:47 -0400, Dan Norton wrote: > > > > > > > On Mon, 7 May 2018 10:42:17 -0400 > > > > Felix Miata <mrma...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > jpff composed on 2018-05-07 12:34 (UTC+0100): > > > > > > > > > > > Felix Miata wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >> My Debian installations are all net installs that > > > > > >> include > > > > > > > > > > >> tasks=standard > > > > > >> base-installer/install-recommends=false > > > > > > > > > > >> on the kernel cmdline. I get nothing I don't need installed > > > > > >> that way. Xorg and whatever else I need I get with apt* > > > > > >> once booted normally. > > > > > > > > > > > That looks interesting; it attemts to answer my deep problem > > > > > > about no X, xdm, xterm etc. > > > > > > > > > > > My problem nowis I do not know where/how to apply this. I > > > > > > have not seen any mention of a kernel command line in the > > > > > > net install. More please! > > > > > > > > > > I'm not up to speed on the conventional HOWTO for answering > > > > > this. I rarely use conventional installation boot media. > > > > > Virtually all my installs are in multiboot environments. This > > > > > enables installation booting by using a bootloader already > > > > > present on the system, by loading an installation kernel and > > > > > initrd, complete with the parameters mentioned, plus several > > > > > others, such as network configuration, and leaving off quiet > > > > > and splash=silent. > > > > > > > > > > IME, virtually any distro's installation media when its > > > > > presence first appears on screen allows for some method of > > > > > appending parameters to the kernel cmdline. It may be an "e" > > > > > key, or an ESC key, or an up or down arrow key, or a function > > > > > key, and likely will suggest how when its screen first > > > > > paints. > > > > > > > > That "kernel cmdline" phrase is a point of confusion. By editing > > > > the "Install" item in the netinst menu, I can change: > > > > > > > > linux /install.amd/vmlinuz vga=788 --- quiet > > > > > > > > ...to this, all on one line: > > > > > > > > linux /install.amd/vmlinuz vga=788 --- tasks=standard > > > > base-installer/install-recommends=false > > > > > > > > Is that going to result in a minimum installation? > > > > > > Leave off tasks=standard for more minimalness. > > > > > > > This is getting exciting. Will I still get a command line? > > If you mean at first boot; yes. > > I preseed in a file with "tasksel tasksel/first multiselect", which > means no task is selected for installation. I've never done it from > a prompt. Perhaps "tasks="? > With the ethernet unplugged, installing with a netinst iso, I do get a minimal installation. With ethernet plugged in, the installed kernel can be booted repeatedly, presenting a login prompt each time. adduser, mount, cat, lp... just work. Now, I want to update and upgrade and start to slowly add packages, but my network ignorance is getting in the way. Tried to run "/sbin/ifconfig -a" but ifconfig is not found. Anyway, ran: dhclient lo dhclient eth0 ...with no effect (could not ping google) Comparing files on this install with the same on this one (where I'm writing this post): /etc/network # same contents on both after I added a link: run -> /network /etc/network/interfaces.d # empty on both /run/network # same on both /var/log/syslog # doesn't show anything obvious to me root@debm:/etc/network# cat interfaces # This file describes... # and how to ... source /etc/network/interfaces.d/* # The loopback network interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback root@debm:/# /etc/init.d/networking stop Stopping networking (via systemctl): networking.service. root@debm:/# /etc/init.d/networking start Starting networking (via systemctl): networking.service. root@debm:/# ping -c 3 http://www.google.com ping: http://www.google.com: Temporary failure in name resolution Please point me to how to get ethernet up. Thanks. - Dan