Reco <recovery...@enotuniq.net> writes: > Hi. > > On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 04:54:02PM +1000, Keith Bainbridge wrote: >> On 15/4/19 9:31 pm, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:> Because GNOME. GNOME's upstream >> said their word loud and clear, and that >> > word is - 'thou shall use Wayland for it is our favorite toy now'. > > I wrote it, in reply to Thomas e-mail. Please watch who you quote. > > >> Now Tomas quips about gnome is insisting that we like a new video process, >> just because the team have decided to like it lots. > > No. What I wrote that for several years you had the possibility to run > GNOME on Wayland. And it will be the default in the next stable Debian. > Because (and here you're correct) - upstream wants that everyone use the > GNOME that way.
Wayland as default will be by and large OK as far as GNOME is concerned IMO from the 2 years i've ran it as default. The last few gnome releases are very solid. Waylands real problem is the DE/OS devs love it but users and apparently most app devs couldn't care less. > You have the ability to run GNOME over X. For now. I predicted that such > ability may disappear in unspecified future (probably - years). Because > GNOME upstream is (in)famous for feature removal. > > >> I say this is NOT freedom. > > The usual arguments apply. > Don't like it - patch it. Patches are welcome. They have the commit bit > - you do not. Etc. > And yes, there are some who did exactly that - Mate DE, Cinnamon DE to > name a few examples. > > >> So, I am asking that gnome be dropped as an installation option (not >> just as the default desktop) until they encourage freedom. > > There's an appropriate place for such wishes, it's called > https://bugs.debian.org. > > Reco > -- Regards......... PGP Fingerprint: 3DF8 311C 4740 B5BC 3867 72DF 1050 452F 9BCE BA00