On Fri 16 Aug 2019 at 08:39:43 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 09:53:20AM +0300, Reco wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 10:36:57PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > On Thu 15 Aug 2019 at 22:15:59 +0100, Tixy wrote: > > > > > > > On Thu, 2019-08-15 at 19:41 +0100, Brian wrote: > > > > > The fact remains that dbus is not a DE only package. How did anyone > > > > > get the idea it was? > > > > > > > > Perhaps because D-Bus stands for Desktop Bus and according to Wikipedia > > > > [1] > > > > > > > > D-Bus was developed as part of the freedesktop.org project [...] to > > > > standardize services provided by Linux desktop environments such as > > > > GNOME and KDE. > > > > > > > > It's seems quite reasonable to me for people to jump to the conclusion > > > > that it's not likely relevant for servers. > > > > > > > > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-Bus > > > > > > Jumping to conclusions is the ideal way of neglecting facts and promoting > > > fallacious assertions. I have given two examples that challenge > > > > > > dbus "...is redundant for typical server software" > > > > The first one being "apt cache rdepends"? You can do better than this. > > > > The second one being CUPS? dbus is not required for printing itself. > > Also, most servers don't deal with ink-and-paper printing. At all.
I don't quite follow that, but is it of great importance? Some do, and then dbus will be involved in advertising print queues to clients. > Brian asked how people would conclude things about D-Bus, and Tixy gave > a completely legitimate answer. It was an answer I had been considering > writing myself, but I was lazy. > > The name is *literally* an abbreviation for Desktop Bus, and you (Brian) > claim you don't understand why people think it's only for desktop systems? > Come on. I own up to reading solely the primary source at freedesktop. I can find no reference there to dbus being required only when (to quote John Doe) > a DE (Gnome,Mate, ...) is present. Whatever the genesis of the application's name and function, it has evidently moved on in the last 10+ years. firewalld (which looks like a good candidate for use on a server) also depends on dbus. -- Brian.