Quoting Dan Ritter (2019-09-16 03:52:50) > Roger Lynn wrote: > > The KDE systems have systemd-shim installed, which is not present in > > Buster. Is this going to cause problems? Will the server be okay? > > Should I just stay with Stretch until Bullseye is released or > > consider moving to Devuan after more than 20 years with Debian? > > It's plausible that if KDE doesn't currently work, > buster-backports will eventually allow it to work -- if so, it > will be due to the Debian Init Diversity team.
I agree that there is a real risk of problems lurking, especially in the bigger desktop environments which most heavily lean on mechanisms invented and far more strongly battle-tested in systemd-based packages. But that is a more general note. And more vague. Addressing only the later questions in your bundle above, Roger. Specifically for having systemd-shim lying around on a system, things are more clear: It is bad! Make sure to replace it with logind. For issues leading to systed-shim being removed from Debian, see https://tracker.debian.org/news/982711/systemd-shim-removed-from-testing/ - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private
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