Nate Bargmann wrote:

> * On 2020 01 Feb 13:48 -0600, Joe wrote:
>> Whether you read or not, Debian is getting more complicated, and
>> therefore more problems are occurring.
> 
> True to a point but then we have more complicated systems to deal with,
> including but not limited to, EUFI and Secure Boot, which I use on this
> desktop.  I did not have Secure Boot enabled when I installed Debian
> again in late 2018 but I did enable it later on.  Now the only trip up
> is that I must sign any VirtualBox kernel modules which I have a script
> that will do so.
> 
> Other things have become vastly less complicated as a user and
> administrator of my own systems.  Xorg is completely self configuring.
> Gone are the days of mode lines and crossing your fingers.  USB devices
> are trivial these days as is networking.  Sure, sometimes things go
> astray and trouble ensues, but there is still plenty of help to be found
> when issues arise.  Perhaps it is easier for me having experience from
> the mid '90s forward with Slackware and almost 20 1/2 years experience
> with Debian.
> 
> Some point to systemd as needless complication.  As a user/my own admin,
> I find it really no worse than init scripts (I'm no shell scripting
> guru).  In fact, there are features I do find useful.  I also trust Debian
> to provide a rather well behaved implementation and so far I have found
> that to be true.
> 
> Modern computers are nothing but complicated.  As a result they require
> a lot of complicated software.  Fortunately, much of what I've learned
> over the years is still applicable.  Sure, some things are no longer
> needed and learning new skills is required, but remaining static holds
> no future in today's world.
> 
> - Nate
> 

absolutely agree with you


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