On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 00:04:18 +0000 Michael Howard <m...@dewberryfields.co.uk> wrote:
> On 23/03/2020 23:20, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 15:15:14 +0000 > > Michael Howard <m...@dewberryfields.co.uk> wrote: > > > >> On 23/03/2020 14:28, Patrick Bartek wrote: > >>> On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 08:37:47 -0400 > >>> Jude DaShiell <jdash...@panix.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> There is devuan-ascii 2.x but I don't know its equivalent to buster. > >>>> That system maintained sysv and still has support. > >>> ASCII is Stretch without systemd or any of the dependencies. Devuan > >>> hasn't release its "Buster" version yet. > >>> > >>> B > >>> > >> It can be upgraded to 'beowulf' using apt of course. > > I did that some months ago with Ascii running in Virtualbox. And it did > > work, but there were enough problems then that it wasn't suitable > > for general use -- just evaluation. Perhaps there have been > > improvements since then, but I'll wait for Beowulf to be officially > > released before checking it out again. Currently, I'll stick with > > Stretch running sysvinit until long term support for ceases. > > > > B > > > I guess it depends exactly what is installed but I have upgraded > via this route a number of times. I wasn't implying that it wouldn't work. It's just when I did it (Fall 2019) Beowulf was less mature and had problems. I wasn't expecting it to be stable quality. I just wanted to evaluate it since I had problems with Buster trying to keep systemd's init from wiping out sysvinit and reinstalling itself everytime I installed something. Infuriating! FWIW: My Ascii test install in Virtualbox mirrored my Stretch install: Basic terminal plus system utilities, X, a window manager (Openbox), single LXPanel, etc. No bells and whistles or eye candy. KISS. So, its upgrade to Beowulf resulted in the same. B