On Sunday, January 2, 2022 8:56:10 PM EST Jude DaShiell wrote: > You can configure brltty to choose none as the voice and silence that. > Perhaps it's time for debian to have an accessibility task that can be > deselected by those that don't need accessibility yet. All accessibility > programs that annoy the temporarily able could be put into that task and > have it either selected or not. For those that do need accessibility, it > would be nice if the installer would come up and speak over the sound card > giving the temporarily able the option to turn speech off for the install > like slint has done for the last couple years. Apple has done this with > Tiger 10.4 and every operating system it released since then. That's how > I installed and got my mac mini running without any sighted assistance. > If I had seen the screen and answered the question with the keyboard > quickly enough, the speech would never have turned on at all. > A big, hearty, Amen! to that "task" suggestion, Jude.
> On Sun, 2 Jan 2022, gene heskett wrote: > > On Sunday, January 2, 2022 5:58:44 PM EST Pierre-Elliott B?cue wrote: > > > gene heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> wrote on 02/01/2022 at 23:53:19+0100: > > > > Greetings All; > > > > > > > > Without any conscious prompting by me, te debian 11.1 netinstall for > > > > x86-64 systems installed and setup whatever was needed to bring the > > > > screen reader to life. > > > > > > > > Any thing related to a braile function that I try to remove wants to > > > > kill > > > > another 2 or 3 gigs of system with it. > > > > > > > > Quite distracting to a sighted user when that robotic voice, > > > > speaking a > > > > very broken bandwidth of what might be english, blaring out of ones > > > > speakers 20 db louder than firefoxes audio can I am sure, find a way > > > > to > > > > silence this w/o destroying the rest of the system. Removing orca > > > > will > > > > shut it up, but that leaves brltty spamming the daemon.log > > > > complaining > > > > about a missing library every 5 seconds. And that's close to 40 > > > > megabytes a week. > > > > > > > > So, how does one shut up this useless to me, screen-reader and kill > > > > the > > > > log spamming at the same time? > > > > > > > > I think its great that folks have gone to that effort for the > > > > sightless, > > > > but why is that sort of stuff always made mandatory. > > > > > > > > I'd sure appreciate any help cleaning it out > > > > > > > > Thanks everybody. > > > > > > Removing brltty will only lead to the removal of its reverse > > > dependencies and so on. This stops at: > > > > > > * brltty-espeak > > > * brltty-flite > > > * brltty-speechd > > > * brltty-x11 > > > > > > None of which you need. > > > > That wasn't the end of the dependencies. There were 4 more I removed > > and > > had to kill 2 of them in memory with htop once they were removed, but > > the > > log is finally silent. > > > > Thank you. Both for the help, and for learning my language so well. > > > > > Theoretically, removing brltty and orca takes little with it. > > > > The first time I tried to remove brltty, the removal cascaded all the > > way up thru all of gnome and xorg. Scary. > > > > > I don't have brltty installed on neither my bullseye nor my unstable > > > installs. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Cheers, Pierre-Elliott B?cue, Gene Heskett. > > . Cheers, Gene Heskett. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>