On Wed, 06 Apr 2022 22:10:01 +0200, Noah Sombrero <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 06 Apr 2022 18:00:01 +0200, Noah Sombrero <[email protected]> >wrote: > >>On Wed, 06 Apr 2022 17:20:01 +0200, Noah Sombrero <[email protected]> >>wrote: >> >>>On Wed, 06 Apr 2022 06:50:01 +0200, Felix Miata >>><[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>>Noah Sombrero composed on 2022-04-05 22:18 (UTC-0400): >>>> >>>>> Everything is ok until I load a program of any size, pan, kmail, >>>>> thunderbird, worker file manager. Worker immediately freezes up >>>>> debian. This was not true at 1024x768. >>>> >>>>Using which DE or WM? >> >>This is X, Cinnamon environment. >> >>>Konsole, Worker & MC are all running fine here @1440x900 on >>>>a 1680x1050 display, though without any RAM shared by the GPU. >>> >>>That would make it hard to compare. But resource monitor shows: >>> >>>cpu1 & cpu 2 both running at about 30%, with the system idle and only >>>resource monitor running. Memory shows 53% of 1.25gb used. Swap not >>>used at all, 8 gb. >>> >>>If I widen the System Monitor display on the processes page an inch or >>>so, debian crashes. Could this be a cpu issue? Why is cpu usage so >>>high? >>> >>>>On all old limited >>>>resource systems like this I automatically ease up the load by disabling >>>>compositing >> >>How can I do that? >> >>>, as well as using a lightweight DE: >>>># free >>>> total used free shared buff/cache >>>> available >>>>Mem: 1542280 146580 903320 1296 492380 >>>>1206724 >>>>Swap: 192744 0 192744 >>>># inxi -GSayz >>>>System: >>>> Kernel: 5.10.0-13-686 arch: i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 >>>> parameters: ro root=LABEL=<filter> >>>> Desktop: Trinity info: kicker wm: Twin v: 3.0 vt: 7 dm: TDM >>>> Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) >>>>Graphics: >>>> Device-1: NVIDIA NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] driver: nouveau v: kernel ports: >>>> active: VGA-1 empty: DVI-I-1,TV-1 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:0322 >>>> class-ID: 0300 >>>> Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.20.11 driver: X: loaded: nouveau >>>> unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa alternate: nv gpu: nouveau display-ID: >>>> :0 >>>> screens: 1 >>>> Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1440x900 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 380x238mm (14.96x9.37") >>>> s-diag: 448mm (17.65") >>>> Monitor-1: VGA-1 model: Lenovo L2251x Wide serial: <filter> built: 2011 >>>> res: 1440x900 dpi: 77 gamma: 1.2 size: 474x296mm (18.66x11.65") >>>> diag: 559mm (22") ratio: 16:10 modes: max: 1680x1050 min: 720x400 >>>> OpenGL: renderer: NV34 v: 1.5 Mesa 20.3.5 direct render: Yes >>>># xrandr >>>>Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1440 x 900, maximum 4096 x 4096 >>>>VGA-1 connected primary 1440x900+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y >>>>axis) >>>>474mm x 296mm >>>> 1680x1050 59.97 + 74.89 >>>> 1280x1024 75.02 60.02 >>>> 1440x900 74.98 59.89* >>>> 1152x864 75.00 >>>> 1024x768 75.03 70.07 60.00 >>>> 800x600 72.19 75.00 60.32 >>>> 640x480 75.00 72.81 66.67 59.94 >>>> 720x400 70.08 >>>>DVI-I-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) >>>>TV-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) >>>># cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/70-extensions.conf >>>>Section "Extensions" >>>> Option "Composite" "Disable" >>>>EndSection >>>> >>>>The mozilla.org build of Firefox ESR52 and of SeaMonkey 2.49.5 run too: >>>># free >>>> total used free shared buff/cache >>>> available >>>>Mem: 1542280 592224 136556 19900 813500 >>>>719904 >>>>Swap: 192744 2840 189904 >> >>So, I ran System monitor and got cpu readings of 30% on both 1 & 2. >>Ram usage was 53% >> >>I started FireFox, cpu readings went to 60-70%, ram usage went to 63% >>ram and .1% swap. That was with no web page loaded. Debian died at >>that point. >> >>Like windows task manager, it seems that a lot is going on that >>doesn't get shown on such tools. The important thing, I think is >>that, if I boot into root, where the video adjustment is not made >>remaining 1024x768, I can load Worker and use it causing no problem. >>In normal user mode, Worker causes immediate debian shutdown. > >It is interesting then, that, if I disable the screen resolution >adjustment, and boot as normal user into 1024x768, cpu usage is about >20% higher on cpu's 1 & 2, and ram usage is a little lower. But I can >load all programs like Worker and Kmail and use them with not a >problem. > >It must simply be something about not being able to manage 1440x900 >resolution. Yes, it is. I failed to remove entries in xorg.conf that I was advised to try. They didn't affect anything as far as I could see, but it turns out that the duplication was confusing debian. I removed those entries and bingo, debian behaves. Thanks everyone. -- Noah Sombrero

