Hi all!

I was wondering if anybody could explain pinning to me... I know several 
sources, yes, but just one more time... Please...?

OK, here's the problem:

I've been tracking unstable on my workstation for a few months now, and 
I'm pretty happy with it, it's up-to-date now and I have the stuff I 
need. It's time to stabilize a bit (after kdm has been uploaded). So, 
from now on, I'd like to be tracking sarge, but certain packages should 
still be installed from unstable if I ask for it explicitly. 

Take for example python2.3. I've had that on hold for some time now, so 
what I have installed is 2.3.2.91-1. Unstable has 2.3.3-1, whereas 
sarge has 2.3.2-2. The idea is that if I go apt-get upgrade, I would 
get sarge's version, but if sarge's version is older than the one I 
currently have, it would just leave it and wait for a higher version to 
become available. I don't want to downgrade anything.

Pinning is for this purpose, so I tried to create a preferences file. 
Initially, it started like this

Package: * 
Pin: release a=unstable
Pin-Priority: 302

Package: * 
Pin: release a=testing
Pin-Priority: 550

After unholding python2.3, and go apt-get upgrade, it started to pull 
2.3.3-1 from unstable. Hm. Back to reading. I've read 
http://www.argon.org/~roderick/apt-pinning.html and the APT HOWTO:
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html#s-pin
The latter says:
| Priorities 0 to 100 denote packages that are not installed and that 
| have no available versions. 

Hm, this doesn't really make much sense to me in the context of 
apt-pinning: Why would one set the pin to <100? Just to say that it 
isn't installed...? And that it won't be installed even if I ask for it 
explicitly? That got me really confused. But then:

| Priority 100 is the priority assigned to an installed package - for 
| the installed version of a package to be replaced by a different 
| version, the replacement must have a priority greater than 100.

OK, so in spite of my confusion above, it seems like if I set the 
priority to below 100 for unstable, it will not replace allready 
installed version, because the priority for unstable will be less than 
the priority of allready installed packages. Sarge, OTOH will have 
priority of 550, so it will be installed. That's what I want. 

So, now my preferences look like:
Package: * 
Pin: release a=unstable
Pin-Priority: 99

Package: * 
Pin: release a=testing
Pin-Priority: 550

apt-get upgrade, however, doesn't agree with my reasoning... It starts 
pulling python2.3 2.3.3-1 from unstable archives... 

I've also tried reordering the entries, run apt-get update, etc. They 
don't make any difference... 

One concern I get out if this as well, it sounds like if I keep a pin 
<100 for unstable, it is not going to be installed even if I ask for 
it? That's not what I set out to achieve...

So, if anybody would care to explain this just another time, I would be 
happy! :-)

A Very Happy New Year to everyone!

Best,

Kjetil
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