On Fri, 2023-09-01 at 22:44 +0200, Michel Verdier wrote: > > > > On 2023-09-01, Default User wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, it does require considerable space (no data > > > > > > > > de-duplication), > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > the rsync of the backup drives does take considerable > > > > > > > > time. > > > > > > > > But to > > > > > > > > me, > > > > > > > > it is worth it, to avoid the methodological equivalent > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > "vendor > > > > > > > > lock- > > > > > > > > in". > > > > > > > > You must have a bad configuration : rsnaphot de-duplicate using > > > > hard > > > > links so you never have duplicated files. Keeping 52 weekly and > > > > 7 > > > > daily > > > > and 24 hourly I need only 130% of original space. And it takes > > > > minimal > > > > time as it transfers only changes and can use ssh compression. > > > >
Okay, first: I said that my "system" files (everything except /home/[user] was backed up using Timeshift. That is correct. It is done by Timeshift automatically, once a day, as well as weekly, monthly, and yearly. But I was wrong about rsnapshot. I said that it was set up to back up /home/[user] only. That is not correct. I now realize that I have it set up to back up all of /, except for: exclude /dev/* exclude /proc/* exclude /sys/* exclude /tmp/* exclude /run/* exclude /mnt/* exclude /media/* exclude /lost+found exclude /home/lost+found exclude /var/lost+found Now sudo du -sh / says that / seems to be using about 30 Gb. But sudo du -sh /media/user/rsnapshot_backups_of_host, says that the backup directory, /media/user/rsnapshot_backups_of_host on backup drive A, is using a whopping 88 Gb for 24 hourly, 7 daily, and 3 weekly! I am thinking, that CAN'T be right. Maybe each hard link is being counted as a full, actual file, when adding up the space allegedly used. So, how can I determine how much space is really being used for the backups? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- FWIW, here is my /etc/rsnapshot.conf file: ################################################# # rsnapshot.conf - rsnapshot configuration file # ################################################# # # # PLEASE BE AWARE OF THE FOLLOWING RULE: # # # # This file requires tabs between elements # # # ################################################# ####################### # CONFIG FILE VERSION # ####################### config_version 1.2 ########################### # SNAPSHOT ROOT DIRECTORY # ########################### # All snapshots will be stored under this root directory. # snapshot_root /media/user/MSD00001/rsnapshot_backups_of_host/ # If no_create_root is enabled, rsnapshot will not automatically create the # snapshot_root directory. This is particularly useful if you are backing # up to removable media, such as a FireWire or USB drive. # no_create_root 1 ################################# # EXTERNAL PROGRAM DEPENDENCIES # ################################# # LINUX USERS: Be sure to uncomment "cmd_cp". This gives you extra features. # EVERYONE ELSE: Leave "cmd_cp" commented out for compatibility. # # See the README file or the man page for more details. # cmd_cp /bin/cp # uncomment this to use the rm program instead of the built-in perl routine. # cmd_rm /bin/rm # rsync must be enabled for anything to work. This is the only command that # must be enabled. # cmd_rsync /usr/bin/rsync # Uncomment this to enable remote ssh backups over rsync. # #cmd_ssh /usr/bin/ssh # Comment this out to disable syslog support. # cmd_logger /usr/bin/logger # Uncomment this to specify the path to "du" for disk usage checks. # If you have an older version of "du", you may also want to check the # "du_args" parameter below. # cmd_du /usr/bin/du # Uncomment this to specify the path to rsnapshot-diff. # cmd_rsnapshot_diff /usr/bin/rsnapshot-diff # Specify the path to a script (and any optional arguments) to run right # before rsnapshot syncs files # #cmd_preexec /path/to/preexec/script # Specify the path to a script (and any optional arguments) to run right # after rsnapshot syncs files # #cmd_postexec /path/to/postexec/script # Paths to lvcreate, lvremove, mount and umount commands, for use with # Linux LVMs. # #linux_lvm_cmd_lvcreate /sbin/lvcreate #linux_lvm_cmd_lvremove /sbin/lvremove #linux_lvm_cmd_mount /bin/mount #linux_lvm_cmd_umount /bin/umount ######################################### # BACKUP LEVELS / INTERVALS # # Must be unique and in ascending order # # e.g. alpha, beta, gamma, etc. # ######################################### # retain hourly 24 retain daily 7 retain weekly 4 retain monthly 12 retain yearly 100 ############################################ # GLOBAL OPTIONS # # All are optional, with sensible defaults # ############################################ # Verbose level, 1 through 5. # 1 Quiet Print fatal errors only # 2 Default Print errors and warnings only # 3 Verbose Show equivalent shell commands being executed # 4 Extra Verbose Show extra verbose information # 5 Debug mode Everything # verbose 5 # Same as "verbose" above, but controls the amount of data sent to the # logfile, if one is being used. The default is 3. # If you want the rsync output, you have to set it to 4 # loglevel 3 # If you enable this, data will be written to the file you specify. The # amount of data written is controlled by the "loglevel" parameter. # logfile /var/log/rsnapshot.log # If enabled, rsnapshot will write a lockfile to prevent two instances # from running simultaneously (and messing up the snapshot_root). # If you enable this, make sure the lockfile directory is not world # writable. Otherwise anyone can prevent the program from running. # lockfile /var/run/rsnapshot.pid # By default, rsnapshot check lockfile, check if PID is running # and if not, consider lockfile as stale, then start # Enabling this stop rsnapshot if PID in lockfile is not running # #stop_on_stale_lockfile 0 # Default rsync args. All rsync commands have at least these options set. # #rsync_short_args -a #rsync_long_args --delete --numeric-ids --relative --delete-excluded # ssh has no args passed by default, but you can specify some here. # #ssh_args -p 22 # Default arguments for the "du" program (for disk space reporting). # The GNU version of "du" is preferred. See the man page for more details. # If your version of "du" doesn't support the -h flag, try -k flag instead. # #du_args -csh # If this is enabled, rsync won't span filesystem partitions within a # backup point. This essentially passes the -x option to rsync. # The default is 0 (off). # #one_fs 0 # The include and exclude parameters, if enabled, simply get passed directly # to rsync. If you have multiple include/exclude patterns, put each one on a # separate line. Please look up the --include and --exclude options in the # rsync man page for more details on how to specify file name patterns. # #include ??? #include ??? #exclude ??? #exclude ??? exclude /dev/* exclude /proc/* exclude /sys/* exclude /tmp/* exclude /run/* exclude /mnt/* exclude /media/* exclude /lost+found exclude /home/lost+found exclude /var/lost+found # # The include_file and exclude_file parameters, if enabled, simply get # passed directly to rsync. Please look up the --include-from and # --exclude-from options in the rsync man page for more details. # #include_file /path/to/include/file #exclude_file /path/to/exclude/file # If your version of rsync supports --link-dest, consider enabling this. # This is the best way to support special files (FIFOs, etc) cross- platform. # The default is 0 (off). # link_dest 1 # When sync_first is enabled, it changes the default behaviour of rsnapshot. # Normally, when rsnapshot is called with its lowest interval # (i.e.: "rsnapshot alpha"), it will sync files AND rotate the lowest # intervals. With sync_first enabled, "rsnapshot sync" handles the file sync, # and all interval calls simply rotate files. See the man page for more # details. The default is 0 (off). # #sync_first 0 # If enabled, rsnapshot will move the oldest directory for each interval # to [interval_name].delete, then it will remove the lockfile and delete # that directory just before it exits. The default is 0 (off). # #use_lazy_deletes 0 # Number of rsync re-tries. If you experience any network problems or # network card issues that tend to cause ssh to fail with errors like # "Corrupted MAC on input", for example, set this to a non-zero value # to have the rsync operation re-tried. # #rsync_numtries 0 # LVM parameters. Used to backup with creating lvm snapshot before backup # and removing it after. This should ensure consistency of data in some special # cases # # LVM snapshot(s) size (lvcreate --size option). # #linux_lvm_snapshotsize 100M # Name to be used when creating the LVM logical volume snapshot(s). # #linux_lvm_snapshotname rsnapshot # Path to the LVM Volume Groups. # #linux_lvm_vgpath /dev # Mount point to use to temporarily mount the snapshot(s). # #linux_lvm_mountpath /path/to/mount/lvm/snapshot/during/backup ############################### ### BACKUP POINTS / SCRIPTS ### ############################### # LOCALHOST backup / localhost/ #backup /home/ localhost/ #backup /etc/ localhost/ #backup /usr/ localhost/ #backup /usr/local/ localhost/ #backup /var/ localhost/ #backup /var/log/rsnapshot localhost/ #backup /etc/passwd localhost/ #backup /home/foo/My Documents/ localhost/ #backup /foo/bar/ localhost/ one_fs=1,rsync_short_args=-urltvpog #backup_script /usr/local/bin/backup_pgsql.sh localhost/postgres/ # You must set linux_lvm_* parameters below before using lvm snapshots #backup lvm://vg0/xen-home/ lvm-vg0/xen-home/ # EXAMPLE.COM #backup_exec /bin/date "+ backup of example.com started at %c" #backup r...@example.com:/home/ example.com/ +rsync_long_args=-- bwlimit=16,exclude=core #backup r...@example.com:/etc/ example.com/ exclude=mtab,exclude=core #backup_exec ssh r...@example.com "mysqldump -A > /var/db/dump/mysql.sql" #backup r...@example.com:/var/db/dump/ example.com/ #backup_exec /bin/date "+ backup of example.com ended at %c" # CVS.SOURCEFORGE.NET #backup_script /usr/local/bin/backup_rsnapshot_cvsroot.sh rsnapshot.cvs.sourceforge.net/ # RSYNC.SAMBA.ORG #backup rsync://rsync.samba.org/rsyncftp/ rsync.samba.org/rsyncftp/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- And here is the default /etc/rsnapshot.conf that comes with rsnapshot: ################################################# # rsnapshot.conf - rsnapshot configuration file # ################################################# # # # PLEASE BE AWARE OF THE FOLLOWING RULE: # # # # This file requires tabs between elements # # # ################################################# ####################### # CONFIG FILE VERSION # ####################### config_version 1.2 ########################### # SNAPSHOT ROOT DIRECTORY # ########################### # All snapshots will be stored under this root directory. # snapshot_root /var/cache/rsnapshot/ # If no_create_root is enabled, rsnapshot will not automatically create the # snapshot_root directory. This is particularly useful if you are backing # up to removable media, such as a FireWire or USB drive. # #no_create_root 1 ################################# # EXTERNAL PROGRAM DEPENDENCIES # ################################# # LINUX USERS: Be sure to uncomment "cmd_cp". This gives you extra features. # EVERYONE ELSE: Leave "cmd_cp" commented out for compatibility. # # See the README file or the man page for more details. # cmd_cp /bin/cp # uncomment this to use the rm program instead of the built-in perl routine. # cmd_rm /bin/rm # rsync must be enabled for anything to work. This is the only command that # must be enabled. # cmd_rsync /usr/bin/rsync # Uncomment this to enable remote ssh backups over rsync. # #cmd_ssh /usr/bin/ssh # Comment this out to disable syslog support. # cmd_logger /usr/bin/logger # Uncomment this to specify the path to "du" for disk usage checks. # If you have an older version of "du", you may also want to check the # "du_args" parameter below. # #cmd_du /usr/bin/du # Uncomment this to specify the path to rsnapshot-diff. # #cmd_rsnapshot_diff /usr/bin/rsnapshot-diff # Specify the path to a script (and any optional arguments) to run right # before rsnapshot syncs files # #cmd_preexec /path/to/preexec/script # Specify the path to a script (and any optional arguments) to run right # after rsnapshot syncs files # #cmd_postexec /path/to/postexec/script # Paths to lvcreate, lvremove, mount and umount commands, for use with # Linux LVMs. # #linux_lvm_cmd_lvcreate /sbin/lvcreate #linux_lvm_cmd_lvremove /sbin/lvremove #linux_lvm_cmd_mount /bin/mount #linux_lvm_cmd_umount /bin/umount ######################################### # BACKUP LEVELS / INTERVALS # # Must be unique and in ascending order # # e.g. alpha, beta, gamma, etc. # ######################################### retain alpha 6 retain beta 7 retain gamma 4 #retain delta 3 ############################################ # GLOBAL OPTIONS # # All are optional, with sensible defaults # ############################################ # Verbose level, 1 through 5. # 1 Quiet Print fatal errors only # 2 Default Print errors and warnings only # 3 Verbose Show equivalent shell commands being executed # 4 Extra Verbose Show extra verbose information # 5 Debug mode Everything # verbose 2 # Same as "verbose" above, but controls the amount of data sent to the # logfile, if one is being used. The default is 3. # If you want the rsync output, you have to set it to 4 # loglevel 3 # If you enable this, data will be written to the file you specify. The # amount of data written is controlled by the "loglevel" parameter. # #logfile /var/log/rsnapshot.log # If enabled, rsnapshot will write a lockfile to prevent two instances # from running simultaneously (and messing up the snapshot_root). # If you enable this, make sure the lockfile directory is not world # writable. Otherwise anyone can prevent the program from running. # lockfile /var/run/rsnapshot.pid # By default, rsnapshot check lockfile, check if PID is running # and if not, consider lockfile as stale, then start # Enabling this stop rsnapshot if PID in lockfile is not running # #stop_on_stale_lockfile 0 # Default rsync args. All rsync commands have at least these options set. # #rsync_short_args -a #rsync_long_args --delete --numeric-ids --relative --delete-excluded # ssh has no args passed by default, but you can specify some here. # #ssh_args -p 22 # Default arguments for the "du" program (for disk space reporting). # The GNU version of "du" is preferred. See the man page for more details. # If your version of "du" doesn't support the -h flag, try -k flag instead. # #du_args -csh # If this is enabled, rsync won't span filesystem partitions within a # backup point. This essentially passes the -x option to rsync. # The default is 0 (off). # #one_fs 0 # The include and exclude parameters, if enabled, simply get passed directly # to rsync. If you have multiple include/exclude patterns, put each one on a # separate line. Please look up the --include and --exclude options in the # rsync man page for more details on how to specify file name patterns. # #include ??? #include ??? #exclude ??? #exclude ??? # The include_file and exclude_file parameters, if enabled, simply get # passed directly to rsync. Please look up the --include-from and # --exclude-from options in the rsync man page for more details. # #include_file /path/to/include/file #exclude_file /path/to/exclude/file # If your version of rsync supports --link-dest, consider enabling this. # This is the best way to support special files (FIFOs, etc) cross- platform. # The default is 0 (off). # #link_dest 0 # When sync_first is enabled, it changes the default behaviour of rsnapshot. # Normally, when rsnapshot is called with its lowest interval # (i.e.: "rsnapshot alpha"), it will sync files AND rotate the lowest # intervals. With sync_first enabled, "rsnapshot sync" handles the file sync, # and all interval calls simply rotate files. See the man page for more # details. The default is 0 (off). # #sync_first 0 # If enabled, rsnapshot will move the oldest directory for each interval # to [interval_name].delete, then it will remove the lockfile and delete # that directory just before it exits. The default is 0 (off). # #use_lazy_deletes 0 # Number of rsync re-tries. If you experience any network problems or # network card issues that tend to cause ssh to fail with errors like # "Corrupted MAC on input", for example, set this to a non-zero value # to have the rsync operation re-tried. # #rsync_numtries 0 # LVM parameters. Used to backup with creating lvm snapshot before backup # and removing it after. This should ensure consistency of data in some special # cases # # LVM snapshot(s) size (lvcreate --size option). # #linux_lvm_snapshotsize 100M # Name to be used when creating the LVM logical volume snapshot(s). # #linux_lvm_snapshotname rsnapshot # Path to the LVM Volume Groups. # #linux_lvm_vgpath /dev # Mount point to use to temporarily mount the snapshot(s). # #linux_lvm_mountpath /path/to/mount/lvm/snapshot/during/backup ############################### ### BACKUP POINTS / SCRIPTS ### ############################### # LOCALHOST backup /home/ localhost/ backup /etc/ localhost/ backup /usr/local/ localhost/ #backup /var/log/rsnapshot localhost/ #backup /etc/passwd localhost/ #backup /home/foo/My Documents/ localhost/ #backup /foo/bar/ localhost/ one_fs=1,rsync_short_args=-urltvpog #backup_script /usr/local/bin/backup_pgsql.sh localhost/postgres/ # You must set linux_lvm_* parameters below before using lvm snapshots #backup lvm://vg0/xen-home/ lvm-vg0/xen-home/ # EXAMPLE.COM #backup_exec /bin/date "+ backup of example.com started at %c" #backup r...@example.com:/home/ example.com/ +rsync_long_args=-- bwlimit=16,exclude=core #backup r...@example.com:/etc/ example.com/ exclude=mtab,exclude=core #backup_exec ssh r...@example.com "mysqldump -A > /var/db/dump/mysql.sql" #backup r...@example.com:/var/db/dump/ example.com/ #backup_exec /bin/date "+ backup of example.com ended at %c" # CVS.SOURCEFORGE.NET #backup_script /usr/local/bin/backup_rsnapshot_cvsroot.sh rsnapshot.cvs.sourceforge.net/ # RSYNC.SAMBA.ORG #backup rsync://rsync.samba.org/rsyncftp/ rsync.samba.org/rsyncftp/ ------------------------------------------------------------------- [BTW, the rsnapshot backups don't seem to take too much time, but doing rsync of external usb backup drive A to external usb backup drive B does take over 90 minutes each time. And that's once a day, every day! Most of that time is apparently not for data transfer, but for rsync building the indexes it needs each time.] Here is the command I use to rsync backup drive A (/media/default/MSD00001) to backup drive B (/media/default/MSD00002): time sudo rsync -aAXHxvv --delete-after --numeric-ids -- info=progress2,stats2,name2 -- exclude={"/dev/*","/proc/*","/sys/*","/tmp/*","/run/*","/mnt/*","/media /*","/lost+found"} /media/default/MSD00001/ /media/default/MSD00002/