On Wed 17/04/2024 at 19:41, David Christensen <dpchr...@holgerdanske.com> wrote: > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: Re: Debian 11 Xfce panel Network Manager applet has disappeared > Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2024 11:38:49 -0700 > From: David Christensen <dpchr...@holgerdanske.com> > To: Gareth Evans <donots...@fastmail.fm> > > On 4/17/24 03:47, Gareth Evans wrote: >> On Wed 17/04/2024 at 09:18, David Christensen <dpchr...@holgerdanske.com> >> wrote: >>> On 4/16/24 08:56, Gareth Evans wrote: >>>> On 16 Apr 2024, at 00:18, David Christensen <dpchr...@holgerdanske.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> On 4/15/24 09:21, Gareth Evans wrote: >>>>>>> On Sun 14/04/2024 at 13:29, David Christensen wrote: >>>>>>> ... >>>>>>> I have used the Xfce panel Network Manager applet for many years. >>>>>>> Tonight, I noticed that it has disappeared (!). >>>>>>> ... >>>>> 2024-04-15 16:08:23 dpchrist@laalaa ~ >>>>> $ ps aux | grep nm-applet >>>>> dpchrist 1518 0.1 0.2 426500 35380 ? Sl 16:06 0:00 >>>>> nm-applet >>>>> dpchrist 1940 0.0 0.0 3240 644 pts/0 S+ 16:15 0:00 grep >>>>> nm-applet >>>>> >>>>> 2024-04-15 16:15:12 dpchrist@laalaa ~ >>>>> $ nm-applet >>>>> >>>>> 2024-04-15 16:15:31 dpchrist@laalaa ~ >>>>> $ ps aux | grep nm-applet >>>>> dpchrist 1518 0.1 0.2 426500 35380 ? Sl 16:06 0:00 >>>>> nm-applet >>>>> dpchrist 1952 0.0 0.0 3240 644 pts/0 S+ 16:15 0:00 grep >>>>> nm-applet >>>> >>>> That seems to show it's running from the outset, just not being displayed >>>> on the panel. >>>> >>>> Does rebooting (or logging out and in again) bring it back? >>> >>> >>> No. >> >> OK. You may have checked this already, but in case not, if I install XFCE >> and go to >> >> Settings > Session and Startup > Application Autostart >> >> there is an entry in the list called >> >> "Network (Manage your network connections)" > > > It is checked. > > >> which shows a tooltip of "command: nm-applet" > > > Command: nm-applet > > >> Might this somehow have become unset? >> >> I'm not sure if it's possible for GUI config helpers to become detached from >> actual settings - this seems to describe the relevant locations: >> >> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/669372/xfce4-session-and-startup-where-are-autostart-items-saved > > > 2024-04-17 11:21:06 dpchrist@laalaa ~ > $ grep nm-applet ~/.config/autostart > grep: /home/dpchrist/.config/autostart: No such file or directory > > 2024-04-17 11:33:11 dpchrist@laalaa ~ > $ find .config -name autostart > > 2024-04-17 11:33:22 dpchrist@laalaa ~ > $ > > > 2024-04-17 11:34:14 dpchrist@laalaa ~ > $ grep -r nm-applet /etc/xdg/autostart > /etc/xdg/autostart/nm-applet.desktop:Exec=nm-applet > /etc/xdg/autostart/nm-applet.desktop:X-GNOME-Bugzilla-Component=nm-applet > > > My WAG is that nm-applet is failing to start, but I have been unable to > find if and where any error message is reported.
There is apparently a long history of nm-applet/XFCE panel-related issues (and not many great answers), as evidenced by such as https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=161998 https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=6105 https://superuser.com/questions/900490/networkmanager-icon-on-notification-area-is-not-present If you get ps output like this directly after a reboot: >>>>> $ ps aux | grep nm-applet >>>>> dpchrist 1518 0.1 0.2 426500 35380 ? Sl 16:06 0:00 >>>>> nm-applet then I don't think the issue is with the starting/running of nm-applet itself, but rather some issue with the notification plugin, which I'm not sure how to begin troubleshooting. I reluctantly abandoned XFCE partly due to panel instability some time ago. The advice in the final link to rm -rf ~/.config/xfce* might be a bit extreme, but I might try renaming it to force a rebuild on next login, and possibly reinstall task-xfce-desktop (or selected packages) Would be interesting to hear from anyone with XFCE panel troubleshooting experience. Best wishes, Gareth
