On Mon, Sep 1, 2025 at 7:41 PM David Wright wrote: > > My posts are being dropped between my hosting's smarthost and debian-user.
this one at least made it to my inbox > ----- Forwarded message from David Wright <[email protected]> ----- > > Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2025 22:39:43 -0500 > From: David Wright > Subject: Re: Debian 13 Trixie GUI desktop environments > Reply-To: [email protected] > > On Sun 31 Aug 2025 at 17:08:47 (-0400), Lee wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 30, 2025 at 3:15 PM Andy Smith wrote: > > > On Sat, Aug 30, 2025 at 04:24:59PM +0000, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming > > > wrote: > > > > You mean Debian doesn't inform you if your OS needs an update? > > > > > > It is dependent on the desktop chosen. GNOME by default downloads > > > updates, and notifies you of them with a desktop notification. > > > > > > The package "apticron" for email notifications has also existed in > > > Debian for a decade or more though people still seem to enjoy > > > reinventing it on their own. > > > > Or perhaps it's that an email notification is useless for us and we > > want a notification that will actually be noticed. > > In my case it's that I want the packages downloaded at the same time. > And I think I've been doing that for longer than apticron has been > around—I see in my sent-mail folder a 2003 post to a LUG, exhorting > someone to put: > apt-get -qq update && apt-get -dqq dist-upgrade && apt-get -sqq upgrade > into their crontab, or perhaps their /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ (which seems > concordant with the age of the post). > > Nowadays my root crontabs have: > apt-get -qq -o Acquire::http::Proxy="http://192.168.1.14:3142/" update && > apt-get -qq -d -o Acquire::http::Proxy="http://192.168.1.14:3142/" > dist-upgrade && find /var/cache/apt/archives/ -name '*deb' > I occasionally find it useful to take a look inside new packages' > /usr/share/doc/ files to see what's changed. but doesn't dist-upgrade apply the updates? I just want to be notified about any updates that are available. I don't want them being applied until after I review them. Regards, Lee

