On Fri 16 Oct 2026 at 10:25:35 (+0200), Klaus Jantzen wrote: > following the documentation for preparing a full-upgrade from Bookworm > I used > > aptlist'?narrow(?installed, ?not(?origin(Debian)))' to find non-Debian > packages. Nothing was found but I got a list with 1000 or so entries > of the form ... apparmor/oldstable,now 3.0.8-3 amd64 > [installed,automatic] appstream/oldstable,now 0.16.1-2+b1 amd64 > [installed,automatic] apt-forktracer/oldstable,oldstable,now 0.9 all > [installed] apt-listchanges/oldstable,oldstable,now 3.24 all > [installed] apt-utils/oldstable,now 2.6.1 amd64 [installed] ... What > should I do with that information? Delete something? How? Leave > everything as is?
That command gives me just: $ apt list '?narrow(?installed, ?not(?origin(Debian)))' Listing... Done inxi/now 3.3.38-1-1 all [installed,local] xtoolwait/now 1.3-6.2 amd64 [installed,local] $ whereas gives me a couple of thousand: $ apt list '?narrow(?installed)' Listing... 2to3/oldstable,now 3.11.2-1 all [installed] acl/oldstable,now 2.3.1-3 amd64 [installed,automatic] acpi-support-base/oldstable,now 0.143-5.1 all [installed,automatic] [ … ] $ My source file is: $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.sources Types: deb URIs: http://deb.debian.org/debian Suites: bookworm bookworm-updates Components: main non-free non-free-firmware contrib Signed-By: /usr/share/keyrings/debian-archive-keyring.gpg Types: deb URIs: http://security.debian.org/debian-security Suites: bookworm-security Components: main non-free non-free-firmware contrib Signed-By: /usr/share/keyrings/debian-archive-keyring.gpg # $ So I'm wondering what you have in yours, and whether having oldstable in place of bookworm could lead to your results. I agree with Anssi, but you might feel more confident were you to pipe your output through something like: | grep -v oldstable,now | grep -v oldstable-security,now Thus, for example, on my system using the shorter command line: $ apt list '?narrow(?installed)' | grep -v oldstable,now | grep -v oldstable-security,now WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts. Listing... inxi/now 3.3.38-1-1 all [installed,local] xtoolwait/now 1.3-6.2 amd64 [installed,local] $ so the contrast is: $ apt list '?narrow(?installed)' | grep -v oldstable,now | grep -v oldstable-security,now | wc -l WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts. 3 $ apt list '?narrow(?installed)' | wc -l WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts. 2187 $ Cheers, David.
