> -----Original Message-----
> From: dircha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, 5 April 2004 1:54 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?
> 
> 
> Bruce Miller wrote:
> > It is perfectly reasonable of Debian to adopt an international 
> > standard.
> > It raises Debian above the debate which is taking place here.
> 
> I protest. It is not perfectly reasonable. This is not a 
> political issue 
> for me. I have no established opinion as to whether or not Taiwan is 
> properly a "Province of China."
> 
> Debian does not obtain neutrality by selecting an existing political 
> compromise and simply saying, "That's it, we don't want to get 
> involved." Simply saying something does not make it so. As I 
> explained 
> at length, "Province of China" serves no legitimate purpose in the 
> selection of a locale. Its sole purpose is to convey a political 
> statement (a relation of political authority of a part to a whole) 
> beyond this single purpose, a statement which is highly 
> controversial. 
> Debian can not hide behind "it is a standard". As I have thoroughly 
> explained previously, selecting "Taiwan, Province of China" 
> is a choice 
> (a selection made without necessity), and is not a choice 
> warranted by 
> any practical consideration.
> 
> The "perfectly reasonable" option is to remove the political 
> commentary, 
> "Province of China" and to stop hiding behind "it is a standard," an 
> appeal to authority, as if that could legitimize the inclusion of an 
> assertion of a political relation, where there ought not to be one.
> 
> Even now, selecting "Taiwan" is not to select, "not Province 
> of China." 
> Rather, it is to de-politicize the statement altogether. 
> "Taiwan" does 
> not mean, "Taiwan, not Province of China." It is neutral on 
> the issue. 
> Publications around the world and in China itself employ "Taiwan" 
> independently of "Taiwan, Province of China."
> 
> Neither is the act itself of now removing "Province of China" a 
> political act. It is an act by a party that wishes to remain 
> neutral to 
> de-politicize the a representation of a locale. Further, no practical 
> value is lost by de-politicizing this representation, for 
> "Province of 
> China" served no practical or non-political end to begin with.
> 
> dircha
> 
> 

Microsoft Server 2003 uses "Taiwan".

I can't work out what OSX uses as each country in the country list is
shown in the alphabet/font/language of the country.
Presumably it's one of the ones with dots and squiggles. (yes, the're
all dot and sqiggles to someone, I know)

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