Better yet, use Knoppix.   Or wait a couple days for
the new one.

http://knopper.net/knoppix/index-old-en.html

Easiest and best Debian available.

You're right, though.  It's like M$ trying to push 3.1
because it's so old all the bugs have finally been
worked out, and it's so "stable"...   Many people
would call that "obsolete."

 --- Jim Woodward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote: > I suggest you install sarge and immediately
> thereafter install kernel 2.6.5
> "Trollcollect" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Hello list,
> >
> > after 3 days of twiddling with a "recent" copy of
> > debians woody release i need to vent a bit of the
> > anger and frustration that this distribution has
> > caused.
> >
> > I want to start with saying that i was a strong
> > advocate of debian compared to distributions such
> as
> > RedHat and SuSE. Being a UNIX admin professionally
> > (Solaris mainly), i felt home on a debian system
> > pretty quick, and the packaging method was unique
> > among all linux deriatives i have seen. Also i
> used to
> > like debians approach of stability before
> > bleeding-edge stuff.
> >
> > However as i have to install a small network now
> (7
> > WS's and one server), i have to reconsider this
> > assessment. I downloaded woody (2 failed attempts
> to
> > get an installation CD with the new jigdo method).
> > What i got after installation was
> > - a 2.2 Kernel without ext3 support
> > - a KDE 2.0
> > overall totally outdated and useless versions of
> > libraries and software.
> >
> > I then tried to figure out how to update those
> > packages i need in recent versions. As i know KDE
> from
> > Solaris, i trust enough in their own QA procedure
> to
> > consider their 3.2.1 stable enough for usage. Why
> > debian believes KDE 2.0 is more stable, or even
> usable
> > at all, is beyond my understanding.
> >
> > However it turned out that i could not update only
> > selected packages easily. In fact neither of
> dselect
> > or apt-get seemed to have a method to do this in a
> > sensible way.
> >
> > Now it MAY well be that i am just an idiot who is
> not
> > capable of doing this, however i asked in a few
> linux
> > related channels and also at work, noone could
> tell me
> > how to set up a half-way decent debian without
> > compromising the pkg system. Sure many told me to
> > build it all by hand but then, without the
> packaging
> > system what good is debian?
> >
> > I hope that whoever is responsible for the
> direction
> > debian is steering to currently thinks about the
> > target of the whole distribution, which is to
> provide
> > users with a decent linux system that comes
> stable,
> > yet with all neccessary parts to be competetive
> among
> > other distributions.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Mit schönen Grüßen von Yahoo! Mail -
> http://mail.yahoo.de
> >
> >
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