On 05 Mar 2004 13:21:24 -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 07:58:03PM +0000, Andrew Suffield wrote: >> > The plural of "anecdote" is not "data". >> >> True, but then what would you suggest as an alternative means of >> gathering data? Should we stick the users in a set of test tubes, >> complete with positive and negative controls? I'd rather take what >> information is out there (including my own observations, and >> observation is the most critical aspect of data gathering) and use >> it. > I agree that Debian has a problem in this area and that it's worth > worrying about and trying to fix. I do not think that Helen has > given us any information about it; she is guessing at what men > usually do, and imputing that to us, and guessing about how women > feel. Not even an anecdote. I don't think she is guessing. Indeed, the men here have done exactly what she thought they would -- calling her a flake, mentally unstable, inexperieiced, and sexist. And I suspect, from the other reports that I have been getting, that she was merely being polite in not naming names. > If we want to solve the problem, we may need to look beyond > stereotypes and guesswork. If you pull your head out of the sand for a moment, you'll notice it is not just stereotypes and guesswork; there is a chronic, systemic, harrassment which is the bloody norm. manoj -- Freed by full realisation and at peace, the mind of such a man is at peace, and his speech and action peaceful. 96 Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]