On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 00:22:03 -0500, Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 04:00:28PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: >> If someone ranked "further discussion" above all other options, I'd >> agree that that was probably an insincere vote. > Why so? I'm not saying I disagree, but I'd like to hear someone > else's thoughts on the phenomenon. I'm interested in figuring out > what sorts of techniques we might use to distinguish "sincere" > preferences from "strategic" ones. Giving a gypsy a gold coin helps. >> However, I an easily understand someone thinking, "if this option >> doesn't get choosen, I want to talk about why". > It seems to me that the same thing can be expressed by not having > "further discussion" on the ballot at all, and asking people to > leave undesired options unranked. Unranked options would not > contribute toward quorum or anything else. > Given that we have this supplementary way of saying "hell no, I > don't want that", I'm curious to know what the effects are, if those > effects are desirable, and if so, why. Because it allows me to say "No way in hell". I think an ability to express strong objections and strong support is very useful in a preference recording mechanism. > I conclude from this that we have a system where people are > perfectly comfortable with voicing no challenge or opposition to a > proposal; they just rank it below "further discussion". Given that > ample opportunity for further discussion was afforded, then yes, I > question the sincerity of that ranking of preferences. Why? It was a sincere expression of strong objections. > Can people *really* prefer "further" discussion when they do not > avail themselves of any discussion in the first place? Think about > the literal meaning of ranking the preferences that way. "I'd > rather see further discussion of this subject than see Proposal Q > implemented." Asked and answered. manoj -- One of the worst of my many faults is that I'm too critical of myself. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C